We were too busy winning everything else,know what i mean?you know,something your team has'nt been doing for the history of their hockey program.Seriousely,Lake Placid was a long time ago and it's still your watershed,isn't it time to put up results consistently,finally? You've been playing this game for a long time,you'd think you would be THE preeminent power by now,but nope.It's still cooing about Lake Placid...........................get with it.No-one thinks you're great because of some fluke 25 years ago.only your fans do.Claypool said:
Team USA's Olympic roster?
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Rabid Ranger
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billsandsabres said:
The only "questionable" choices I see are Chelios and Hatcher. If you ask Wing or Flyer fans about those two then it's a non-issue.
I will say this team is being under-rated right off the bat around here just as i knew it would be.The team has a good mix and i especially like the energy line they'll be able to throw out there against the opposition,it's an eneregy unit that can score too.
This team won't be a favourite.........................but it should be a lot better then people are saying it will be.
This team won't be a favourite.........................but it should be a lot better then people are saying it will be.
Rabid Ranger
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cyclops said:
Why should the U.S. be the "preeminent" power in ice hockey now? It's a fringe sport in all but a few pockets of the country (at least's that's how things are perceived). Given that fact, the U.S. has done pretty well, especially of late. Don't worry, no one's going to steal Canada's crown just yet.
I'm not worried,you're right.Just letting him now we're here to keep guys like him on his toes.You would'nt expect less from me now would you Range?Rabid Ranger said:
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nomorekids said:
If you don't think Ryan Miller is a better goalie then DiPietro,Grahame,Esche (lol) then that haterade you drink must be pretty good.I don't think you have said anything but negative things about Buffalo players,since the off-season.Your bias is hardly noticeable.
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Legionnaire said:
I wouldn't have had Chelios on the team, but Leetch has become an absolute nightmare in his own end. The US has enough puck movers.
In fairness to Esche, who admittedly has not been good this year, he has done a heck of a lot more in the NHL and in international competition that DiPiertro, Grahame, or Miller. He was really good at the world championships and was very close to winning the cup last season.DanielBriere48 said:
Euro size rink, with new NHL rules, and USA brings up this team with some D-men who turn slower than titanic? Weird weird choises some of them, but I guess that's pretty much the best they can do right now.
On paper, that is the 7th best team of the tournament.
On paper, that is the 7th best team of the tournament.
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psycho_dad said:Euro size rink, with new NHL rules, and USA brings up this team with some D-men who turn slower than titanic? Weird weird choises some of them, but I guess that's pretty much the best they can do right now.
On paper, that is the 7th best team of the tournament.
I'd be more excited about watching an all amateur team; Phil Kessel, Jack Johnson, Matt Carle, TJ O'Shie, etc, than this bunch.
Gags1288 said:
Esche wasn't at the World Championships this year. Are you thinking of the World Cup?
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DanielBriere48 said:
Ryan Miller is his own team's backup goalie and when he plays it's behind one of the better defenses in the league. DiPietro plays behind one of the worst and has looked every bit as impressive as Miller at every level, NHL or otherwise. Grahame has been one of the best goalies in hockey over the last month of the season. Esche...meh.
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DanielBriere48 said:
No, in truth, Buffalo has far too little significance to me, as a Predators fan, to care enough to be "biased." I'm just saying, open outrage that Miller(a goaltender scant amounts of NHL experience) wasn't named to the team over 3 guys with experience, two of which saw significant NHL playoff time, the other has been mostly exceptional in international play...is a little silly.
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djtino224 said:
That must be what he's referring to. Ryan Miller actually has a lot of international experience having started for Team USA in two World Championships.
http://hockeygoalies.org/bio/millerr.html
DiPietro has played in 6 World Championship games (2004 and 2005). Esche's international competion consists of 4 World Cup games in 2004 and 6 World Championship games (2000 and 2001). All 3 have been great when they've gotten the call. Grahame has one World Championship game under his belt in 1996 where he got shelled, but its so long ago, it's meaningless.
Rabid Ranger
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psycho_dad said:Euro size rink, with new NHL rules, and USA brings up this team with some D-men who turn slower than titanic? Weird weird choises some of them, but I guess that's pretty much the best they can do right now.
On paper, that is the 7th best team of the tournament.
Again, I will ask: Who are the bad skaters on this team? Derian Hatcher? That's about it. As for he being named to the team, watch some Flyer games and you'll see how well he's playing. Hatcher has to be the most misunderstood player in the league. As for how good the U.S. team on paper, I'd suggest you do some homework before making that statement. Every team with the exception of Canada and perhaps the Czechs has it's fair share of question marks. The U.S. squad isn't the "sexiest," but that's not going to matter with the work ethic and underrated skill-level of the team.
Rabid Ranger said:
Hatcher yes. If we are talking about defense. Chelios is not the fastest guy on skates anymore either. I have been watching flyers games, probably about 15 of them this season. Hatcher is playing well, but he is not playing on big ice surface. That will be different for a defenseman, I promise you.
Rabid Ranger
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psycho_dad said:
People were saying Hatcher would fall on his face because of the new NHL rules and he's been just fine. Like I said, Hatcher has a rep for being a mindless goon, but he's a very smart hockey player and plays within his limitations. He wouldn't have been chosen if the U.S. brass felt otherwise.
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Rabid Ranger said:
Yeah, add those rules to bigger ice and you have yourself a situation that strongly favours faster and more agile players. Hatcher is a good d-man for sure, but his speed will bring some penalties that a guy like Leetch would have been able to prevent with his speed. More ice, more room to go around.
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psycho_dad said:
and Leetch will be able to control the size of Bertuzzi, Iginla, Nash, Doan, Thornton, etc. by doing what ???
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John Flyers Fan said:
I think people forget that once the transistion game is through teams go in the cycle along the boards, especially bigger and stronger players. That's where guys like Hatcher and Miller come in.
John Flyers Fan said:
Iginla is big these days? Yeah I get your point, but Leetch has done fine against big guys in the NHL...of course he has more problems with them than Hatcher has, but at least he can skate with the opponent. Imagine guys like Kovalchuk, Ovechkin, Gaborik, Selänne, Koivu, Modano, Gagne, St.Louis etc against Hatcher in big ice where they have more room to challenge him by skating...speed kills.
Naturally if you think that the U.S are good enough to worry only about the big strong forwards of Canada, then the point is quite valid.
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