Team USA vs. Team Sweden vs. Team Russia

[Ben White]

How would you rank the teams?

Roster breakdown:
(Players: Player ratings)


Team USA

LW Zach Parise: 5 (-) / C Tyler Johnson: 4 / RW Patrick Kane: 5 (+)
Max Pacioretty 5 (-) / Ryan Kessler 4 / Phil Kessel 5 (-)
James van Riemsdyk 4 (-) / Paul Stastny 4 (-) / Blake Wheeler 4 (+)
Bobby Ryan 4 / Derek Stepan 3 / Joe Pavelski 4 (+)
Chris Kreider 3 (+)

D Ryan Suter: 5 / D John Carlson: 4 (+)
Dustin Byfuglien 4 (-) / Justin Faulk 4 (+)
Kevin Shettinkirk 4 / Ryan McDonagh 4 (-)
Nick Leddy 3 (+)

G Jonathan Quick: 5
Ben Bushop: 5 (-)
Cory Schneider: 4



Team Sweden

LW Henrik Zetterberg: 5 (-) / C Nicklas Backstrom : 5 / RW Alex Steen: 4
Daniel Sedin: 5 / Henrik Sedin: 5 / Loui Eriksson: 4
Gabriel Landeskog: 4 / Gustav Nyqvist: 4 (-) / Filip Forsberg:4 (-)
Viktor Rask: 3 (+) / Mika Zibanejad: 4 (-) / Patrik Hornqvist: 3
Marcus Johansson : 3 (+)

D Erik Karlsson: 5 (+) / Oliver Ekman-Larsson: 5
Victor Hedman: 5 / Anton Stralaman: 4 (+)
John Klingberg: 4 (+) / Niklas Hjalmarsson: 4
Alex Edler: 4

G Henrik Lundqvist: 5
Anders Nilsson: 3 (+)
Eddie Lack: 3



Team Russia

LW Alex Ovechkin: 5 (+) / C Evgeni Malkin: 5 / RW Vladimir Tarasenko: 5
Artemi Panarin: 4 (+) / Pavel Datsyuk: 5 (-) / Nikita Kucherov: 4
Ilya Kovalchuk: 4 (-) / Evgeny Kuznetsov: 4 (+) / Alexander Radulov: 4
Nikolay Kulemin: 3 (+) / Artem Anisimov 4 / Nail Yakupov 4 (-)
Vladislav Namestnikov: 3 (+)

D Andrei Markov: 4 / Yevgeni Medvedev: 3
Anton Belov: 3 / Alexei Emelin: 3
Maxim Chudinov: 2 (+) / Ilya Nikulin: 3
Yegor Yakovlev: 2

G Sergei Bobrovsky: 5 (-)
Semyon Varlamov: 4
Andrei Vasilevskiy: 3 (+)


Definition:
5 - All Star/Superstar
4 - Very good 1st liner/All Star
3 - Top 6 NHL F/Top 4 NHL D
2 - Top AHL/Bottom 6 or 4 NHL player
1 - Not NHL standard

(+) Means current level better than general reputation.
No (+) or (-) Plays on pair with his reputation.
- Currently worse than general reputation.

Edit:
A 4(+) player can actually be better, at this moment, than a 5(-) player.

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[Bear12Good]

How would you rank the teams?

Roster breakdown:
(Players: Player ratings)


Team USA

LW Zach Parise: 5 (-) / C Tyler Johnson: 4 / RW Patrick Kane: 5 (+)
Max Pacioretty 5 (-) / Ryan Kessler 4 / Phil Kessel 5 (-)
James van Riemsdyk 4 (-) / Paul Stastny 4 (-) / Blake Wheeler 4 (+)
Bobby Ryan 4 / Derek Stepan 3 / Joe Pavelski 4 (+)
Chris Kreider 3 (+)

D Ryan Suter: 5 / D John Carlson: 4 (+)
Dustin Byfuglien 4 (-) / Justin Faulk 4 (+)
Kevin Shettinkirk 4 / Ryan McDonagh 4 (-)
Nick Leddy 3 (+)

G Jonathan Quick: 5
Ben Bushop: 5 (-)
Cory Schneider: 4



Team Sweden

LW Henrik Zetterberg: 5 (-) / C Nicklas Backstrom : 5 / RW Alex Steen: 4
Daniel Sedin: 5 / Henrik Sedin: 5 / Loui Eriksson: 4
Gabriel Landeskog: 4 / Gustav Nyqvist: 4 (-) / Filip Forsberg:4 (-)
Viktor Rask: 3 (+) / Mika Zibanejad: 4 (-) / Patrik Hornqvist: 3
Marcus Johansson : 3 (+)

D Erik Karlsson: 5 (+) / Oliver Ekman-Larsson: 5
Victor Hedman: 5 / Anton Stralaman: 4 (+)
John Klingberg: 4 (+) / Niklas Hjalmarsson: 4
Alex Edler: 4

G Henrik Lundqvist: 5
Anders Nilsson: 3 (+)
Eddie Lack: 3



Team Russia

LW Alex Ovechkin: 5 (+) / C Evgeni Malkin: 5 / RW Vladimir Tarasenko: 5
Artemi Panarin: 4 (+) / Pavel Datsyuk: 5 (-) / Nikita Kucherov: 4
Ilya Kovalchuk: 4 (-) / Evgeny Kuznetsov: 4 (+) / Alexander Radulov: 4
Nikolay Kulemin: 3 (+) / Artem Anisimov 4 / Nail Yakupov 4 (-)
Vladislav Namestnikov: 3 (+)

D Andrei Markov: 4 / Yevgeni Medvedev: 3
Anton Belov: 3 / Alexei Emelin: 3
Maxim Chudinov: 2 (+) / Ilya Nikulin: 3
Yegor Yakovlev: 2

G Sergei Bobrovsky: 5 (-)
Semyon Varlamov: 4
Andrei Vasilevskiy: 3 (+)


Definition:
5 - All Star/Superstar
4 - Very good 1st liner/All Star
3 - Top 6 NHL F/Top 4 NHL D
2 - Top AHL/Bottom 6 or 4 NHL player
1 - Not NHL standard

(+) Means current level better than general reputation.
No (+) or (-) Plays on pair with his reputation.
- Currently worse than general reputation.

Edit:
A 4(+) player can actually be better, at this moment, than a 5(-) player.

Nail Yakupov and Ilya Nikulin not go to the World Cup 100%

 

[Spade]

US has great depth and a few gamebreaking talents, but doesn't quite have that elite #1 center up the middle, which in a tournament of all-stars means a heck of a lot.

Russia has the elite center and gamebreaking talent, but their coaches are really oldschool and tend to do poorly in short tournament formats because of their inability to make changes on the fly.

Sweden has a little bit of everything on their roster, and some of the most adaptable coaches in the game, which gives them the edge IMO.

 

[tony d]

Sweden
USA
Russia

 

[Bear12Good]

Sweden
USA
Russia

line of attack from Russia the best in the world after Canada, and it is a fact

 

[Namba 17]

Sweden
USA
Russia

This.

 

[Namba 17]

Alexander Radulov: 4

You don't know a thing happening outside of the North America, right?

 

[Ben White]

You don't know a thing happening outside of the North America, right?

What do you mean? 4 means that he'd be a great 1st liner perhaps even occassionally an all star in "North America".

 

[Phil McKraken]

line of attack from Russia the best in the world after Canada, and it is a fact

I don't think anyone is disputing that. Sweden's and USA's forwards are more two-way though, and both have better defensemen and goaltending.

 

[jfc64]

Team Sweden

Henrik Zetterberg (5-) - Mika Zibanejad (3+) - Gabriel Landeskog: 4
Daniel Sedin (5) - Henrik Sedin (4+) - Loui Eriksson (4-)
Alexander Steen (4) - Nicklas Bäckstrom (5+) - Filip Forsberg (3+)
Marcus Johansson (2+) - Patrik Berglund (3) - Jimmie Ericsson (2)
Carl Söderberg (3+)


Oliver Ekman-Larsson (5) - Erik Karlsson: (5)
Niklas Hjalmarsson (4) - Victor Hedman (5)
Hampus Lindholm (3+) - Alex Edler: 4
Jonathan Ericsson (3-)


Henrik Lundqvist: 5
Jhonas Enroth: 3
Linus Ullmark: 2+

 

[Bear12Good]

Alex Ovechkin: 5 /Evgeny Kuznetsov: 5 Vladimir Tarasenko: 5
Nikita Kucherov: 4 C Evgeni Malkin: 5 Sergey Mozyakin 5
Artemi Panarin: 5 ) Artem Anisimov 4 Alexander Radulov: 5
Ilya Kovalchuk: 5 Pavel Datsyuk: 5 Vadim Shipachev 4
Vladislav Namestnikov: 3

Andrei Markov: 4 / Yevgeni Medvedev: 3
Alexei Emelin: 3 /Nikita Zaytsev 4
Dmitry Kulikov 3 Maxim Chudinov 2



G Sergei Bobrovsky: 5
Semyon Varlamov: 4
Andrei Vasilevskiy: 3

 

[Ben White]

Team Sweden

Henrik Zetterberg (5-) - Mika Zibanejad (3+) - Gabriel Landeskog: 4
Daniel Sedin (5) - Henrik Sedin (4+) - Loui Eriksson (4-)
Alexander Steen (4) - Nicklas Bäckstrom (5+) - Filip Forsberg (3+)
Marcus Johansson (2+) - Patrik Berglund (3) - Jimmie Ericsson (2)
Carl Söderberg (3+)


Oliver Ekman-Larsson (5) - Erik Karlsson: (5)
Niklas Hjalmarsson (4) - Victor Hedman (5)
Hampus Lindholm (3+) - Alex Edler: 4
Jonathan Ericsson (3-)


Henrik Lundqvist: 5
Jhonas Enroth: 3
Linus Ullmark: 2+

Did you do your very best to make the team worse...? Where is Stralman, Klingberg, Nyqvist? And what on earth is Zibanejad doing at #1 C??? And why Berglund? Why on Earth Jimmie Eriksson??? You're trolling man. I mean you put guys there that even you rated much lower. Whats the purpose??

 

[Ben White]

Alex Ovechkin: 5 /Evgeny Kuznetsov: 5 Vladimir Tarasenko: 5
Nikita Kucherov: 4 C Evgeni Malkin: 5 Sergey Mozyakin 5
Artemi Panarin: 5 ) Artem Anisimov 4 Alexander Radulov: 5
Ilya Kovalchuk: 5 Pavel Datsyuk: 5 Vadim Shipachev 4
Vladislav Namestnikov: 3

Andrei Markov: 4 / Yevgeni Medvedev: 3
Alexei Emelin: 3 /Nikita Zaytsev 4
Dmitry Kulikov 3 Maxim Chudinov 2



G Sergei Bobrovsky: 5
Semyon Varlamov: 4
Andrei Vasilevskiy: 3

Ok, Radulov, Panarin, Kovalchuk - 5 ?? Mozyakin: 5???

Could you try to be less biased?

 

[Ben White]

You didn't read my definitions guys...

(+) means playing better than general reputation. (-) the opposite.
How is Fordberg, H. Sedin and Zinanejad, for example, playing BETTER right now than usual??

 

[GWNR]

Alex Ovechkin: 5 /Evgeny Kuznetsov: 5 Vladimir Tarasenko: 5
Nikita Kucherov: 4 C Evgeni Malkin: 5 Sergey Mozyakin 5
Artemi Panarin: 5 ) Artem Anisimov 4 Alexander Radulov: 5
Ilya Kovalchuk: 5 Pavel Datsyuk: 5 Vadim Shipachev 4
Vladislav Namestnikov: 3

Andrei Markov: 4 / Yevgeni Medvedev: 3
Alexei Emelin: 3 /Nikita Zaytsev 4
Dmitry Kulikov 3 Maxim Chudinov 2



G Sergei Bobrovsky: 5
Semyon Varlamov: 4
Andrei Vasilevskiy: 3

You're not good with the rating system, are ya now?

 

[Bear12Good]

You're not good with the rating system, are ya now?

Is there something wrong?

 

[Ben White]

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobandy17 View Post
You're not good with the rating system, are ya now?

Is there something wrong?

I also wish people could be a little less biased...

 

[MrOT]

Alex Ovechkin: 5 /Evgeny Kuznetsov: 5 Vladimir Tarasenko: 5
Nikita Kucherov: 4 C Evgeni Malkin: 5 Sergey Mozyakin 5
Artemi Panarin: 5 ) Artem Anisimov 4 Alexander Radulov: 5
Ilya Kovalchuk: 5 Pavel Datsyuk: 5 Vadim Shipachev 4
Vladislav Namestnikov: 3

Andrei Markov: 4 / Yevgeni Medvedev: 3
Alexei Emelin: 3 /Nikita Zaytsev 4
Dmitry Kulikov 3 Maxim Chudinov 2


G Sergei Bobrovsky: 5
Semyon Varlamov: 4
Andrei Vasilevskiy: 3

Wow! Then the Swedish roster would look like this:

Team Sweden

LW Henrik Zetterberg: 5 / C Nicklas Backstrom : 5 / RW Alex Steen: 5
Daniel Sedin: 5 / Henrik Sedin: 5 / Loui Eriksson: 4
Gabriel Landeskog: 4 / Gustav Nyqvist: 4 / Filip Forsberg: 5
Viktor Rask: 4 / Mika Zibanejad: 4 / Patrik Hornqvist: 4
Marcus Johansson : 4

D Erik Karlsson: 5 / Oliver Ekman-Larsson: 5
Victor Hedman: 5 / Anton Stralaman: 5
John Klingberg: 5 / Niklas Hjalmarsson: 5
Alex Edler: 4

G Henrik Lundqvist: 5
Anders Nilsson: 3
Eddie Lack: 4

 

[Ben White]

Time to stop the biased ratings. Get over it guys.

 

[MrOT]

Time to stop the biased ratings. Get over it guys.

Just had to answer to the russian homerism

 

[Ace of Hades]

Team Sweden

Henrik Zetterberg (5-) - Mika Zibanejad (3+) - Gabriel Landeskog: 4
Daniel Sedin (5) - Henrik Sedin (4+) - Loui Eriksson (4-)
Alexander Steen (4) - Nicklas Bäckstrom (5+) - Filip Forsberg (3+)
Marcus Johansson (2+) - Patrik Berglund (3) - Jimmie Ericsson (2)
Carl Söderberg (3+)


Oliver Ekman-Larsson (5) - Erik Karlsson: (5)
Niklas Hjalmarsson (4) - Victor Hedman (5)
Hampus Lindholm (3+) - Alex Edler: 4
Jonathan Ericsson (3-)


Henrik Lundqvist: 5
Jhonas Enroth: 3
Linus Ullmark: 2+

Mika Zibanejad has no business being on the top line. He's best served for fighting for one of the last spots on the 4th line at best.

 

[TheCLAM]

You don't know a thing happening outside of the North America, right?

He might be a great player in Russia, but not in the entire world. He was one of the laziest players I've ever seen play in the NHL, with his ability. He left for Russia primarily because he wouldn't be paid nearly as much in the NHL

 

[cleveland408]

The U.S line of Ryan and Pavelski would get burned by a lack of speed. Pavelski should be playing center.

 

[Ben White]

Mika Zibanejad has no business being on the top line. He's best served for fighting for one of the last spots on the 4th line at best.

Yeah, that must be some kind of "irony-roster", don't get the purpose. Look at guys like Jonathan Ericsson (maybe a top 16 D for Sweden) Berglund...? Jimmie Ericsson???? No Klingberg...?? Zibanejad at #1 C?????

He's trolling man

 

[MrOT]

Team Sweden

Henrik Zetterberg (5-) - Mika Zibanejad (3+) - Gabriel Landeskog: 4
Daniel Sedin (5) - Henrik Sedin (4+) - Loui Eriksson (4-)
Alexander Steen (4) - Nicklas Bäckstrom (5+) - Filip Forsberg (3+)
Marcus Johansson (2+) - Patrik Berglund (3) - Jimmie Ericsson (2)
Carl Söderberg (3+)


Oliver Ekman-Larsson (5) - Erik Karlsson: (5)
Niklas Hjalmarsson (4) - Victor Hedman (5)
Hampus Lindholm (3+) - Alex Edler: 4
Jonathan Ericsson (3-)


Henrik Lundqvist: 5
Jhonas Enroth: 3
Linus Ullmark: 2+

Looking at the Nordic letters I think it's some jelous Finnish guy who´s trying to trash talk the Swedes as usual with that silly lineup