WC: Team Latvia 2025 Roster Talk

[Namejs]

Nice time loop we are having here. You didn't comment anything about him as a 20-minute TOI 4th liner in the playoffs though, totally by accident, I'm sure.

Also from a person so prudent in numbers, I thought you were aware enough Batna isn't 8th but 7th when it comes to the lineup since Estephan only played 10 games and Bunnaman replaced him, they were never in the same lineup. But yes, how dare I call the forward that is 7th in TOI and trailing the 6th one by a whole ONE SECOND a middle-six forward. "Russia-tier truth-spinning," I tell ya

Players tend to have more ice time when their team plays OT and the GWG is scored in the 72nd minute. Why are you doubling down on your mistake and posting his ice time without any context?

Serious Olympic tier mental gymnastics. A guy plays on the 3rd line. It shows up in the game sheet. It aligns with his ice time. He's a 3rd liner.

Yet somehow, for some reason he's actually a 2nd liner, because he only played a minute less than the actual 2C.

How can you actually consider that a valid argument?

Who is the 2C? Does he become the 1C? And is the 1C now in a quantum state of superposition?

 

[ozo]

Players tend to have more ice time when their team plays OT and the GWG is scored in the 72nd minute. Why are you doubling down on your mistake and posting his ice time without any context?

I guess his teammates were not on the ice in the overtime. Only Batna benefited from extra game time, got it.

 

[Dofs]

I don't get it, how does Batna playing on the third line instead of the second makes the statement of him being a 'middle-six forward' false?

 

[SoundAndFury]

Players tend to have more ice time when their team plays OT and the GWG is scored in the 72nd minute. Why are you doubling down on your mistake and posting his ice time without any context?

Are you blind? Game 4 ended in regulation, Jukurit won 5-2, Batna played over 20 minutes. The same guy you said "literally played on the 4th line in the playoffs". How stupid do you think others are to not see through your bullshit?

And just like ozo is saying, in your "saving grace" game that went to OT Oskars "literally the 4th liner" Batna played 4 more minutes than any other forward. Jesper Piitulainen was the closest with 20:36. That's the context you asked for.

It's hilarious you are digging a deeper and deeper hole under your feet with a hope to somehow surface on the other side.

Who is the 2C? Does he become the 1C? And is the 1C now in a quantum state of superposition?

I guess you have never heard of "middle six forward", "top 4 defensemen", or "1A/1B goalies". All these new advanced concepts.

 

[kudla]

Nah if someone makes a movie named SAF vs. Namejs, I'll be the first in the cinema.

 

[Namejs]

Look at the game sheets, numbnuts.

When you play a bottom 6 grinder type, do linematching and ice a shutdown line in the O zone or use a big body on the PK, his ice time can get inflated in comparison with a 2nd line skilled-type depending on the number of penalties or the tactics employed.

If a team rolls their lines relatively evenly, their focus is on keeping up the energy levels high and pressure on the opposing team high throughout the game.

How thick do you have to be to not realize this?

He has been a 3rd liner in 80% of games for Jukurit.

His usage and his playing style is that of a prototypical shutdown power forward. And this is blatantly obvious to anyone with a brain who has been following Latvian hockey.

He has no business being on or being associated with a middle six role in the context of the Latvian national team.

Prohorenkovs is a completely different type of a player who complements other skilled forwards well, as evidenced by the fact he's literally played on the 1st line for the Latvian national team in all 4 exhibition games along with Daugavins and Ravinskis.

A grinder type forward has no business playing in the top 6 of the Latvian national team. His offensive production is limited, and he plays like an old school agitator and earns way too many penalties.

I do not see him anywhere else than on the 4th line in a best on best scenario.

In terms of offensive production, as I explained before, once you compare the NHLe of Prohorenkovs numbers in NCAA to Batna's numbers in Extraliga and Liiga, Prohorenkovs is clearly more offensively talented and will likely get a contract in the AHL.

If you want to be diligent about Batna's talent level, let's go beyond the 23/24 season and look at his offensive talents in Liiga and the French league in 22/23 and 21/22.

I clearly prefer a more skilled forward on the 3rd line of the national team, yes. How preposterous of a notion, right?

 

[SoundAndFury]

Look at the game sheets, numbnuts.

Who cares about the game sheets? Znaroks, for example, had a habit of penciling his de facto 1st line as a 4th one all the time during his glory days with Dynamo.

It's just funny that you considered that to be your "gotcha" moment. You officially downgraded yourself from stat-watcher to lineup sheet-watcher.

You made the board borderline unreadable with screenshots from 2 games out of 6 that kinda sorta support your case although not even that since you argued the man is "literally the 4th liner", now you are evidently happy to "expose" him as a 3C in one of 6 games And those games where he led all Jukurit forwards in ice time by quite some margin, I guess you hope 20 hours is enough time to forget about it.

But, credit where credit's due, you have proved this "literal 4th liner" had 3rd line minutes in the few games he played the least in. Great success.

On a side note, I guess ruining the readability of the board is now your trademark desperation move, just like the dozens of reposted tweets from nobodies without any substance in Abols' case.

I clearly prefer a more skilled forward on the 3rd line of the national team, yes. How preposterous of a notion, right?

I told you already, you can prefer whatever you want and think whatever you want. Batna played in all situations for Jukurit, sometimes literally as much as it was possible to play him (almost 25 minutes even in a 71-minute game is McDavid levels) and is a core part of HK powerplay this season, as you can see in the previous page only trailing their most used PP forward by 20s and pretty much equal with everyone else on the PP duty. But to you he is a 4th liner because you are right, reality is wrong and every coach ever is an idiot to not see the things you see.

We all know this, it has been talked about with you ad nauseam. It's your prerogative. The issue is that you spend days trying to prove it to other people who know you are blatantly wrong, which you do not consider to be their prerogative.

 

[Namejs]

Buddy, let it go, you got exposed, the mic got dropped a week ago, you're stumbling around the stage with your mom's spaghetti on the sweater.

What makes my hands sweaty, on the other hand, is a guy named Dans Locmelis. 8 points in 4 AHL games and I am starting to feel a tingling sensation in one of my body parts that says he very well might not be joining the national team.

 

[Eye of Ra]

throwback, 2000 wc team. first time latvia reached qf.

Artis Abols (LW)
Aleksandrs Belavskis (RW)
Aigars Cipruss (C)
Vjaceslavs Fanduls (C)
Mareks Jass (RW)
Aleksandrs Kercs (LW)
Aleksandrs Macijevskis (RW)
Aleksandrs Nizivijs (LW/RW)
Juris Opulskis (LW)
Grigorijs Pantelejevs (LW)
Aleksandrs Semjonovs (C)
Sergejs Senins (RW)
Janis Sprukts (C)
Leonids Tambijevs (LW)
Herberts Vasiljevs (C)
Harijs Vitolins (C)

Mihails Bogdanovs (D)
Igors Bondarevs (D)
Viktors Ignatjevs (D)
Rodrigo Lavins (D)
Andrejs Maticins (D)
Normunds Sejejs (D)
Aleksandrs Siskovics (D)
Karlis Skrastins (D)
Atvars Tribuncovs (D)

Arturs Irbe (G)
Sergejs Naumovs (G)
Dmitrijs Zabotinskis (G)

 

[Namejs]

Apparently all of Tralmaks, Rubins and Batna are injured.

A lacerated tendon, a broken and dislocated foot and other fun things.

I don't think Rubins will make it in time. Tralmaks is 70/30, he's already been healing for 6 weeks now. Batna has barely stepped on ice.

Rubins and Tralmaks are obviously key players.