WJC: Team Finland 2018 U20 WJC Roster Talk
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-Tolvanen
-Vesalainen
-Rasanen
-Kuokkanen
-Koivula
-Somppi
-Tuulola
-Juolevi
-Valimaki
-Vaakanainen
-Niemelainen
-Salo
-Heiskanen
-E. Rasanen
-Luukkonen
Who knows, maybe a new coach can do wonders?
-Vesalainen
-Rasanen
-Kuokkanen
-Koivula
-Somppi
-Tuulola
-Juolevi
-Valimaki
-Vaakanainen
-Niemelainen
-Salo
-Heiskanen
-E. Rasanen
-Luukkonen
Who knows, maybe a new coach can do wonders?
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Yeah it's been horrendous so far but this seems a bit premature.
We're still in this tournament. No reason to not root for the team until we're out (let that be the round robin or finals or anything in between). There's a reasonable time for this sort of ultimate doom and gloom - and it's not quite yet.
We're still in this tournament. No reason to not root for the team until we're out (let that be the round robin or finals or anything in between). There's a reasonable time for this sort of ultimate doom and gloom - and it's not quite yet.
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Our defense could be elite next year.
Juolevi- Heiskanen
Valimaki- Salo
Vaakanainen- Niemelainen.
Our defense this year has been the only positive, behind that garbage goaltending, coach and offense our defense has managed to do well against every 4 teams they played against. Now add another year of development for those kids with a great coach and who knows.
Then Kuokkanen, Vesalainen, Tolvanen and Rasanen should be expected to do something in WJC '18.
Juolevi- Heiskanen
Valimaki- Salo
Vaakanainen- Niemelainen.
Our defense this year has been the only positive, behind that garbage goaltending, coach and offense our defense has managed to do well against every 4 teams they played against. Now add another year of development for those kids with a great coach and who knows.
Then Kuokkanen, Vesalainen, Tolvanen and Rasanen should be expected to do something in WJC '18.
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As a Sens fan I'm curious about Nurmi. Has anyone seen him play? His stats don't look impressive.
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2018 Finland Roster Talk
Now that this nightmare after Christmas is over for Team Finland for this year, it's time to look forward and start the long (and ultimately meaningless) discussion of what will the team look come December 2017.
Here are some of my thoughts.
First, I will list returning players, who should be on the team barring injuries or NHL. I will not even consider Puljujarvi or Laine.
Centers:
Rasanen
Wingers:
Tolvanen
Vesalainen
Kuokkanen
Koivula
Defense:
Juolevi
Valimaki
Heiskanen
Vaakanainen
Now comes the more interesting part, that is to say, the more speculative part. Here I will list players who I think will be on the team, in order of how likelihood of the making the team in my opinion.
Centers:
Koskenkorva (C/W)
Ikonen (C/W)
Heponiemi (C/W)
Koppanen
Wingers:
Tuulola
Jaaska
Moilanen
Nyman
Defense:
Salo
Jokiharju
Niemelainen
Rasanen
Almari
Reunanen
Goalies:
Luukkonen
I listed 13 forwards and 9 D and 1 goalie (because I don't know much about goalies). It should be a pretty good team, but nothing spectacular except for the D, which looks really good on paper.
Now that this nightmare after Christmas is over for Team Finland for this year, it's time to look forward and start the long (and ultimately meaningless) discussion of what will the team look come December 2017.
Here are some of my thoughts.
First, I will list returning players, who should be on the team barring injuries or NHL. I will not even consider Puljujarvi or Laine.
Centers:
Rasanen
Wingers:
Tolvanen
Vesalainen
Kuokkanen
Koivula
Defense:
Juolevi
Valimaki
Heiskanen
Vaakanainen
Now comes the more interesting part, that is to say, the more speculative part. Here I will list players who I think will be on the team, in order of how likelihood of the making the team in my opinion.
Centers:
Koskenkorva (C/W)
Ikonen (C/W)
Heponiemi (C/W)
Koppanen
Wingers:
Tuulola
Jaaska
Moilanen
Nyman
Defense:
Salo
Jokiharju
Niemelainen
Rasanen
Almari
Reunanen
Goalies:
Luukkonen
I listed 13 forwards and 9 D and 1 goalie (because I don't know much about goalies). It should be a pretty good team, but nothing spectacular except for the D, which looks really good on paper.
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Loffer
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Hopefully there will be more swag and intellect in next year's team. Talking about the "golden era" and comparing to Sweden I must add there is still much work to do and miles to cover.
Finland's junior program must implement further changes in its strategic and guiding principles and objectives. Along the lines I have outlined previously.
Why is a Swedish prospect and a collective of such players much more skilled and cerebeal than the Finnish counterpart still? Cuz the Finnish system and related underlying hockey and coaching culture suck still in the big picture
As I said we need an 'academic culture revolution' in Finnish hockey. And more intelligent players and even still more skilled players in average to come out of the youth ranks going forward.
Finland's junior program must implement further changes in its strategic and guiding principles and objectives. Along the lines I have outlined previously.
Why is a Swedish prospect and a collective of such players much more skilled and cerebeal than the Finnish counterpart still? Cuz the Finnish system and related underlying hockey and coaching culture suck still in the big picture
As I said we need an 'academic culture revolution' in Finnish hockey. And more intelligent players and even still more skilled players in average to come out of the youth ranks going forward.
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cheer up, Finns. You'll have Laine, Puljujarvi, Aho and Barkov at the WHC in May.... and you are in the Paris group with us... Lots to look forward to...
Players who have played for the U20 national team this year:
Goalies:
None
Defense(9):
Juolevi(NHL?)
Valimaki
Heiskanen
Jokiharju
Kotkansalo
Niemelainen
Salo
Almari
Vaakanainen
Forwards(11):
Somppi
Makinen
Vesalainen
Tolvanen
Rasanen
Kuokkanen
Koivula
Koppanen
Jaaska
Oksanen
Turkulainen
I think Ahokas will keep the core group from the U18 gold winning team there so.
Something like:
Vesalainen-Ikonen-Tolvanen
Koivula-Rasanen(A)-Turkulainen
Kuokkanen-Makinen-Oksanen
Tuulola-Koppanen-Nurmi
Somppi/Moilanen
Valimaki(C) - Jokiharju
Heiskanen - Vaakanainen
Niemelainen - Salo(A)
Kotkansalo
Luukkonen
Laakso
Goalies:
None
Defense(9):
Juolevi(NHL?)
Valimaki
Heiskanen
Jokiharju
Kotkansalo
Niemelainen
Salo
Almari
Vaakanainen
Forwards(11):
Somppi
Makinen
Vesalainen
Tolvanen
Rasanen
Kuokkanen
Koivula
Koppanen
Jaaska
Oksanen
Turkulainen
I think Ahokas will keep the core group from the U18 gold winning team there so.
Something like:
Vesalainen-Ikonen-Tolvanen
Koivula-Rasanen(A)-Turkulainen
Kuokkanen-Makinen-Oksanen
Tuulola-Koppanen-Nurmi
Somppi/Moilanen
Valimaki(C) - Jokiharju
Heiskanen - Vaakanainen
Niemelainen - Salo(A)
Kotkansalo
Luukkonen
Laakso
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Otto Koivula (-98) - Janne Kuokkanen (-98) - Eeli Tolvanen (-99)
Kristian Vesalainen (-99) - Aapeli Rasanen (-98) - Joni Ikonen (-99)
J.Kotkaniemi (-00)/A.Heponiemi (-99)/J.Koskenkorva (-99)/E.Tuulola (-98)/J.Turkulainen (-98)
Juha Jaaska (-98) - Joona Koppanen (-98) - Markus Nurmi (-98)
Juuso Valimaki (-98) - Henri Jokiharju (-99)
Miro Heiskanen (-99) - Robin Salo (-98)
Markus Niemelainen (-98) - Urho Vaakanainen (-99)
Olli Juolevi (-98)/Kasper Kotkansalo (-98)
Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen (-99)
Lassi Lehtinen (-99)
Leevi Laakso (-98)
Kristian Vesalainen (-99) - Aapeli Rasanen (-98) - Joni Ikonen (-99)
J.Kotkaniemi (-00)/A.Heponiemi (-99)/J.Koskenkorva (-99)/E.Tuulola (-98)/J.Turkulainen (-98)
Juha Jaaska (-98) - Joona Koppanen (-98) - Markus Nurmi (-98)
Juuso Valimaki (-98) - Henri Jokiharju (-99)
Miro Heiskanen (-99) - Robin Salo (-98)
Markus Niemelainen (-98) - Urho Vaakanainen (-99)
Olli Juolevi (-98)/Kasper Kotkansalo (-98)
Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen (-99)
Lassi Lehtinen (-99)
Leevi Laakso (-98)
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I actually forgot Turkulainen, I should have listed him as a possibility.
Nurmi, Oksanen, Makinen, Somppi and Kotkansalo are definite possibilities, but I very much prefer the guys I listed over them. Obviously these players can develop a hell of a lot in a year, making these listings futile in the end, but hey, gotta pass the time somehow.
My team as of now:
Vesalainen - Rasanen - Tolvanen
Kuokkanen - Heponiemi - Koivula
Ikonen - Koskenkorva - Turkulainen
Jaaska - Koppanen - Tuulola
Moilanen
Heiskanen - Juolevi
Valimaki - Jokiharju
Salo - Vaakanainen
Niemelainen/Rasanen
Luukkonen
Laakso
I think the centers are a bit of a question mark though. Would be great if someone really stepped up their game in the coming year, and someone probably will. Once again I'm faced with the futility of this discussion at this point, but can't help myself.
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Laine-Kuokkanen-Puljujärvi
Vesalainen-Räsänen-Tolvanen
Koivula-Heponiemi-Ikonen
Jääskä-Somppi-Tuulola
Juolevi-Välimäki
Heiskanen-Salo
Niemeläinen-Vaakanainen
Jokiharju
Luukkonen
Instant gold
Vesalainen-Räsänen-Tolvanen
Koivula-Heponiemi-Ikonen
Jääskä-Somppi-Tuulola
Juolevi-Välimäki
Heiskanen-Salo
Niemeläinen-Vaakanainen
Jokiharju
Luukkonen
Instant gold
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It is meaningless how many mindless geezers will be buzzing in Young Lions next Boxing Day if there ain't no real leading celebral players of vision among them.
Guys wake da **** up. Kuokkanen and Raesaenen can hopefully elevate their game next year.
Guys wake da **** up. Kuokkanen and Raesaenen can hopefully elevate their game next year.
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Jets won't release Laine and Oilers won't release Puljujarvi to 2018 U20 WJC's.
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ChicagoBullsFan
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Are you sure Oilers will release Puljujarvi to 2017 IIHF men's worlds.?
By the way this thread is made for Team Finland's 2018 U20 WJC roster talk.
Not Team Finland 2017 IIHF men's worlds roster talk.
PS yeah i know Finland and Canada are same group again in men's worlds this year.
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I but these to Jatkoaika on 5th december.
Notable forwards:
Rasanen A C -98
Heponiemi C -99
Somppi C -98
Ikonen C -99
Makinen C -98
Kuokkanen C/LW -98
Koivula LW -98
Tolvanen LW -99
Vesalainen RW -99
Moilanen RW -99
Tuulola RW -98
Nyman RW -99
Jaaska LW -98
Koppanen LW/C -98
Nurmi RW -98
Oksanen RW -98
Koskenkorva C -99
Kotkaniemi C -00
(Puljujarvi RW -98)
(Laine LW -98)
Predicted lines:
Kuokkanen-Rasanen-Nyman
Tolvanen-Ikonen-Vesalainen
Koivula-Somppi-Oksanen
Jaaska-Makinen-Nurmi
Heponiemi
Thought i think now Rasanen with Tolvanen and Vesalainen and Ikonen with Nyman and Kuokkanen. Koskenkorva could be strong canditade to team also. He can play on wing also?
Defencemans:
Juolevi D -98?
Jokiharju D -98
Salo D -98
Vaakanainen D -99
Valimaki D -98
Heiskanen D -99
Rasanen E D -99
Felixon D -98
Niemelainen D -98
Almari D -98
Vesterinen D -99
Kotkansalo D -98
Teravainen D -99
Reunanen D -98
Valimaki-Salo
Vaakanainen-Heiskanen
Felixon-Jokiharju
Niemelainen
Juolevi will be definately on team. Defence (by talent) will be awesome. Felixons plus minus stats are very good.
Luukkonen G -99
Lebedeff G -99
Kotkaniemi G -99
Laakso G -98
Halonen G -98
Lehtinen G -99
and that Autio guy who someone mentioned. Can somebody tell me more about him?
Luukkonen
Laakso
Halonen
Notable forwards:
Rasanen A C -98
Heponiemi C -99
Somppi C -98
Ikonen C -99
Makinen C -98
Kuokkanen C/LW -98
Koivula LW -98
Tolvanen LW -99
Vesalainen RW -99
Moilanen RW -99
Tuulola RW -98
Nyman RW -99
Jaaska LW -98
Koppanen LW/C -98
Nurmi RW -98
Oksanen RW -98
Koskenkorva C -99
Kotkaniemi C -00
(Puljujarvi RW -98)
(Laine LW -98)
Predicted lines:
Kuokkanen-Rasanen-Nyman
Tolvanen-Ikonen-Vesalainen
Koivula-Somppi-Oksanen
Jaaska-Makinen-Nurmi
Heponiemi
Thought i think now Rasanen with Tolvanen and Vesalainen and Ikonen with Nyman and Kuokkanen. Koskenkorva could be strong canditade to team also. He can play on wing also?
Defencemans:
Juolevi D -98?
Jokiharju D -98
Salo D -98
Vaakanainen D -99
Valimaki D -98
Heiskanen D -99
Rasanen E D -99
Felixon D -98
Niemelainen D -98
Almari D -98
Vesterinen D -99
Kotkansalo D -98
Teravainen D -99
Reunanen D -98
Valimaki-Salo
Vaakanainen-Heiskanen
Felixon-Jokiharju
Niemelainen
Juolevi will be definately on team. Defence (by talent) will be awesome. Felixons plus minus stats are very good.
Luukkonen G -99
Lebedeff G -99
Kotkaniemi G -99
Laakso G -98
Halonen G -98
Lehtinen G -99
and that Autio guy who someone mentioned. Can somebody tell me more about him?
Luukkonen
Laakso
Halonen
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After the U18s and this season I'd go with something like this:
Vesalainen-Ikonen-Tolvanen
Koivula-Rasanen-Turkulainen
Kuokkanen-Koppanen-Ylonen
Kuiri-Jaaska-Moilanen
Luostarinen
Juolevi/Salo - Jokiharju
Heiskanen - Vaakanainen
Valimaki - Niemelainen
Kotkansalo
Luukkonen
Laakso
Tons of potential options for bottom 6 roles with Oksanen, Tuulola, Innala, Heponiemi, Nyman, Nurmi, Virtanen, Straka, Sihvonen, Makinen and Somppi to name a few.
Vesalainen-Ikonen-Tolvanen
Koivula-Rasanen-Turkulainen
Kuokkanen-Koppanen-Ylonen
Kuiri-Jaaska-Moilanen
Luostarinen
Juolevi/Salo - Jokiharju
Heiskanen - Vaakanainen
Valimaki - Niemelainen
Kotkansalo
Luukkonen
Laakso
Tons of potential options for bottom 6 roles with Oksanen, Tuulola, Innala, Heponiemi, Nyman, Nurmi, Virtanen, Straka, Sihvonen, Makinen and Somppi to name a few.
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My team Finland U20 WJC prediction after U18's.
1st Line Vesalainen Rasanen Tolvanen
Heiskanen Vaakanainen
2nd Line Kuokkanen Somppi Koivula
Juolevi Valimaki.
3rd Line Jaaska Ikonen Ylonen
Salo Niemelainen
4th Line Nurmi Koppanen Tuulola
13th Forward Jerry Turkulainen / Aleksi Heponiemi / Emil Oksanen / Sami Moilanen
7th Defenceman Henri Jokiharju / Tarmo Reunanen / Eemeli Rasanen / Oliver Felixson ( only if he's fully recovered of Hodgkin's Lymphoma).
^^
Depeding injuries of course
Goalies
Luukkonen
Halonen
Laakso.
Other potential candidates
Kasper Kotkansalo
Anton Straka
Otto Makinen
Linus Nyman
Aarne Talvitie
Santeri Virtanen
Lassi Lehtinen
Jesperi Kotkaniemi.
1st Line Vesalainen Rasanen Tolvanen
Heiskanen Vaakanainen
2nd Line Kuokkanen Somppi Koivula
Juolevi Valimaki.
3rd Line Jaaska Ikonen Ylonen
Salo Niemelainen
4th Line Nurmi Koppanen Tuulola
13th Forward Jerry Turkulainen / Aleksi Heponiemi / Emil Oksanen / Sami Moilanen
7th Defenceman Henri Jokiharju / Tarmo Reunanen / Eemeli Rasanen / Oliver Felixson ( only if he's fully recovered of Hodgkin's Lymphoma).
^^
Depeding injuries of course
Goalies
Luukkonen
Halonen
Laakso.
Other potential candidates
Kasper Kotkansalo
Anton Straka
Otto Makinen
Linus Nyman
Aarne Talvitie
Santeri Virtanen
Lassi Lehtinen
Jesperi Kotkaniemi.
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