TEAM CROATIA 2015 div 1B

[crobro]

Any word I'd Colorado gonna release Rendulics for the world championships?

 

[kulenova seka]

Any word I'd Colorado gonna release Rendulics for the world championships?

Forget him this year...

 

[crobro]

If only Croatia beat Poland last year.

This years 1a looks so bad that Croatia might have had a decent chance this year with all the cronucks.

 

[crobro]

Interesting that matija militic has been named in preliminary roster,

 

[kulenova seka]

Interesting that matija militic has been named in preliminary roster,

Nothing interesting about that, he deserves to be on final roster as well. One of the better young players in Croatia, he has nice stats in EBEL U20 and if Medvescak returns to EBEL league I expect him to play EBEL within year or two.

 

[crobro]

Croatia lost to Slovenia in an exhibition game

Croatia - Slovenia 2:5 (0:0, 1:3, 1:2)

 

[Ivan94]

GK:
Mark Dekanich
Mate Tomljenović
Andrej Vasiljević
D:
Kenny MacAulay
Geoff Waugh
Alan Letang
Andy Sertich
Saša Martinović
Marko Ljubić
Igor Jačmenjak
Borna Šilović
F:
Mike Glumac
Andrew Murray
Dario Kostović
Nathan Perkovich
Ryan Kinasewich
Ivan Janković
Dominik Kanaet
Mislav Blagus
Luka Vukoja
Tadija Mirić
Ivan Brenčun
Matija Miličić

 

[cave troll]

Let's hope we can make it without Rendulic, Novak and Naglic.

 

[bobbeaver]

Why isnt Novak in the squad anyhow, he has really good stats, Is he injured?

 

[Ivan94]

INL-playoffs

 

[crobro]

With the new iihf nationalization criteria would wacey rabbit qualify to play for Croatia ?

 

[Fragmuffin]

With the new iihf nationalization criteria would wacey rabbit qualify to play for Croatia ?

no.

btw. Novak's season ended yesterday... got swept 3-0 in the finals. I realize back at the tim it was impossible to predict this, but from this standpoint, he has just as much prep time with the team as McAuley

and also, this 12F+8D roster that our NT is so enamoured with is really getting old. By the tournaments end, we always have 2 D's filling the 4th line.

 

[Bojovnik]

I actually can't believe what I'm seeing with the Croatian roster with all the dual nationals.

Maybe GB should go and raid Canada for all the players with British parents and call that team 'Great Britain' too. They did that in 1996 to advance to the top division, but it killed the depth of British young talent in the long run.

Pretty weak IMO.

 

[Urbanskog]

I actually can't believe what I'm seeing with the Croatian roster with all the dual nationals.

Maybe GB should go and raid Canada for all the players with British parents and call that team 'Great Britain' too. They did that in 1996 to advance to the top division, but it killed the depth of British young talent in the long run.

Pretty weak IMO.

The difference is that Croatia hardly has any players by their own.

 

[jonas2244]

They would have to play two years in GB. It's much easier to convince Canadians to come over and play two years in the KHL than to play in the british league.

 

[Bojovnik]

They would have to play two years in GB. It's much easier to convince Canadians to come over and play two years in the KHL than to play in the british league.

...Most British teams have upwards of 8-9 North Americans. It's just the choice GB makes not to naturalise the majority of them. The only Canadian in the British team this coming year is Chris Blight, who has an English father and has played in the EIHL three years.

 

[jonas2244]

Of course, but those players just don't have the quality to bring GB back to the World Championship.
Croatia won't do that also just with naturalised players. And that is what the IIHF wanted, teams need their own base of good players to get to the Top-16.

 

[kulenova seka]

I actually can't believe what I'm seeing with the Croatian roster with all the dual nationals.

Maybe GB should go and raid Canada for all the players with British parents and call that team 'Great Britain' too. They did that in 1996 to advance to the top division, but it killed the depth of British young talent in the long run.

Pretty weak IMO.

First cool off a little bit...there are only a few players that actually has nothing to do with Croatia, all others have Croatian parents or grandparents, so they are players with croatian origin.

 

[kulenova seka]

Of course, but those players just don't have the quality to bring GB back to the World Championship.
Croatia won't do that also just with naturalised players. And that is what the IIHF wanted, teams need their own base of good players to get to the Top-16.

Hopefully not, but there are some signs more players (Thomas, Brine) will get croatian passport...

 

[jonas2244]

Yeah, but what I want to say is: a player like David Brine won't bring you to the top-division. And that's what the IIHF wants to prevent. So Croatia can get their Canadians and play in Divison IB or maybe IA.

 

[Fragmuffin]

no.

btw. Novak's season ended yesterday... got swept 3-0 in the finals. I realize back at the tim it was impossible to predict this, but from this standpoint, he has just as much prep time with the team as McAuley

and also, this 12F+8D roster that our NT is so enamoured with is really getting old. By the tournaments end, we always have 2 D's filling the 4th line.

lol, we actually managed to do this exact thing even before stepping foot in Eindhoven. Kegalj replaces the injured Vukoja. We now have 9D+11F... what a joke.

 

[kulenova seka]

lol, we actually managed to do this exact thing even before stepping foot in Eindhoven. Kegalj replaces the injured Vukoja. We now have 9D+11F... what a joke.

It is not a joke. Marko Ljubic can play forward, he played it on several WC-s. Andy Sertich also can play forward, he played it in 2012. and he was forward back at NCAA days. Yes, it would make more sense to add Sakic or Jarcov instead of Vukoja, but we won't be short on forwards

 

[zamo86*]

Of course, but those players just don't have the quality to bring GB back to the World Championship.
Croatia won't do that also just with naturalised players. And that is what the IIHF wanted, teams need their own base of good players to get to the Top-16.

Actually this doesnt prevent anything. Anyone can pull off Qatar in handball (although not in a way that they would be a contender, but at least to be a fringe WC team bouncing back and forth like the Italians are doing - the irony is that the Italians just might do the same with their own players).

As for Croatia. Dont understand what exactly do they want. Alan Letang for example has finished his career and hasnt played serious hockey for over a year, yet they called him into the squad this season. How exactly doest this kind of things help their NT development programe? And the KHL incentive will be gone within two years anyways.

 

[kulenova seka]

Actually this doesnt prevent anything. Anyone can pull off Qatar in handball (although not in a way that they would be a contender, but at least to be a fringe WC team bouncing back and forth like the Italians are doing - the irony is that the Italians just might do the same with their own players).

As for Croatia. Dont understand what exactly do they want. Alan Letang for example has finished his career and hasnt played serious hockey for over a year, yet they called him into the squad this season. How exactly doest this kind of things help their NT development programe? And the KHL incentive will be gone within two years anyways.

KHL may be gone after this season already, but it has nothing to do with naturalization of players. Majority of dual-nats are from EBEL era and if we return to EBEL (in january one austrian site reported that we sent application for next season) it won't stop us from naturalizing.

 

[jonas2244]

Actually this doesnt prevent anything. Anyone can pull off Qatar in handball (although not in a way that they would be a contender, but at least to be a fringe WC team bouncing back and forth like the Italians are doing - the irony is that the Italians just might do the same with their own players).

You can't prevent everything, that's true, but the same case like Qatar in Handball is not possible in ice-hockey. And that's the most important thing. That would be a huge damage to the sport. Players who already played for another national team (even WJC) (and you would need such players to get to the top-10) would have to play 4 years in a domestic league and those just won't do it. Croatia won't come far with this strategy, you need a strong base of home-trained players and then you can add some naturalized players (like Switzerland does it sometimes).