Team China 2022

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The NBA example shows the KHL as well as rest of hockey why it will never make it in China. Because the demand has to exist first and the supply can follow only after. Trying to push supply without any demand is not going to magically produce success.
No. Your logic is terrible. One example of one way to succeed is not preclusion of any other ways to succeed. That is a tragically bad argument.


Kunlun was promoted hard initially, it did nothing to prevent them from going only downhill. There's not going to be an attempt with better resources than what they had. Likewise if the Chinese were going to establish an ice hockey league it would have been before these Olympics, and it didn't happen.
Hmmm so they put some moderate effort into an opening. It didnt pay off immediately. So of course they must give up right? For like the nth time. Companies are not short sighted like you. They routinely run ventures, if not the entire company, in the red perpetually. Against which this is nothing.

Also a chinese league has never been the goal, it's just something you, one person incessantly whines about.


The government is tolerating such hate speech against athletes while dissidents are shut down immediately. Discussing tennis was quickly blocked altogether after the now-prominent sexual assault accusations were made. Even related emoji are often removed from use. It's actually a very interesting first-hand experience, trying to write something that only disappears when you press send.
This argument is so bad. So the government endorses every statement they dont explicitly censure? Even DMs? I dont even know if you comprehend what you're trying to say. Just because the government censures some statements doesnt mean that it endorses every statement it doesnt censure, even DMs. This is true for no government in the world.


It's enough for the Olympic team to become an embarrassment. And that's not only dictated by domestic narratives, but also by foreign coverage. 'A hockey fiasco' or 'A massacre on ice' are not the type of headlines these games are meant to produce around the world. The athletes can return to Canada and stay there for the rest of their lives if they so wish, but officials deemed responsible for the failure will take the fall. Of course it's not inevitable that things go wrong, but as anyone saw with Wuhan, officials at all levels tend to prefer to be safe than sorry when it comes to covering their own asses.
I already mentioned the coronavirus response as something they do care about. You know something they don't care about? A hockey game. And no, some euro bloggers writing condescending remarks changes nothing. No one is embarrassed about something they don't care about. Of all the things the chinese government does care about, this is not one of them. This is almost a perfect example of something they dont care about. And you insisting that it is, does not make it so.

You cant even find evidence that MPS officials are sacked when China, as routinely does, underperforms in sports they heavily invest in. Much less one they invested minimally in. Your entire premise relies on Chinese people and the government being irrational and irrationally fragile. And while it's easy to stereotype people you don't know, and Chinese people do it to westerners as well, it doesn't make your assumptions correct.
 
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First KHL start for O'Brien.
Nothing has been said officially, but it wouldn't shock me if that lineup is entirely players who are Chinese eligible right now
 


Kunlun icing a lineup today filled up with lots of homegrown Chinese players, something they haven't done at all


Considering the authoritarian and humorless regime they are purportedly playing under their Twitter is a lot funnier (or trying to be) than I had expected.
 
Every homegrown Chinese forward played at least 9 minutes of game time including one of them picking up an assist on the first goal of the game, both homegrown defensemen played 5 and 7 minutes respectively
 
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It's an encouraging result but I still hope they figure out Bartley, Pu, Kane, Riche, Squires, etc as well.

Wong, the Foo brothers and Sproul are really good though. I think those who follow the team knew that.
 
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Congrats China!! They certainly produce a lot of hockeysticks, so if anything if their participation can lead to some additinal economies of scale I am (as a Norwegian) all for it. All for it anyways actually. The olympics has always been a place where the top athletes meets some participants from more obscure nations (sports wise) also invited to the party. Somebody should make a Netflix show about this one - ref the Jamaica bob team.
 


Kunlun going with the same sort of lineup again, noticeable more Chinese players and quite a few players missing. Notable that Han Pengfei is the backup goalie today
 


Kunlun going with the same sort of lineup again, noticeable more Chinese players and quite a few players missing. Notable that Han Pengfei is the backup goalie today


Kunlun lost 2-7 against Sibir today.
I count 11 canadians, 1 russian and 9 chinese players.

Getting closer to a real chinese lineup with eligible players.
Still missing 12 chinese passports to have full team.





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Kunlun lost 2-7 against Sibir today.
I count 11 canadians, 1 russian and 9 chinese players.

Getting closer to a real chinese lineup with eligible players.
Still missing 12 chinese passports to have full team.





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I would assume that the non-chinese players in this lineup have Chinese citizenship, or intend to get it.
Otherwise I have no idea why Kunlun would be excluding so many other good Canadians from the lineup
 


Kunlun going with the same sort of lineup again, noticeable more Chinese players and quite a few players missing. Notable that Han Pengfei is the backup goalie today

I’m assuming that’s the team they think they will take to the Olympics?
 
It's a strange situation as Osipov and Werek should not be eligible to represent China, even if they manage to obtain Chinese passports despite being on these lineups.

Meanwhile, you have a great number of KRS regulars who did not participate in these games but who would be eligible to represent China if the citizenship issue is solved and if the team playing in Russia instead of China does not constitute a problem. These would include Chelios, Hu, Kane, Lockhart, Nicholls, Riche, Seto, Squires, Tam and Yuen. Chelios and Yuen are injured so that explains those two, but what about the others?

Really, it's just Bartley, Osipov, Pu, Werek and the goalie duo Lazushin and Smith who should be ineligible as per IIHF rules.
 
Sounds like giving up their existing citizenship may not have been a part of the deal they were offered originally, and if it's been made a condition now at the last moment it would explain why a number of players may be willing to withdraw.
 
Blows my mind that any Canadians/Americans would give up their citizenship to play 3 games for China in the Olympics.
It's not 1950s anymore, China has a lot to offer. Even more so if you don't particularly care for the NA culture to begin with.
 


Couple of players drawing back in for Kunlun after missing the last couple games. Alex Riche, Cliff Pu, and Josh Nicholls back in.

A few Chinese players out after playing the past couple games: Zimeng Chen, Peter Zhong, Jianing Guo, Juncheng Yan, Ruinan Yan.

First career KHL game for Pengfei Zhang.

OT loss to Traktor today.

Paris O'Brien has faced 49, 45, and 38 shots in his 3 games
 
Taking a point off of tractor is really solid. Glad to see Pu, Riche and Nicholls back.
 
I don't know how recently it happened, but a few players are no longer on the Kunlun roster on the KHL website.
Bartley, Hu, Tam, Seto, Squires, Abramov.
Also Zimeng Chen and Peter Zhong are not listed on the KHL website.


Update: Those players (except Bartley) are listed on the KHL website as being on KRS-BSU. The VHL Kunlun affiliate that hasn't played since 2019-20 season
 
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