Weird that the Canucks get a sanctioned runoff at 11 OA, while our runoff at 6 OA was ignored.
Anyways, my pick will be Sale, with Dragicevic being a close consideration. I'd also be happy with Wood.
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Anyways, my pick will be Sale, with Dragicevic being a close consideration. I'd also be happy with Wood.
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The fact that "Arena" was not an option invalidates this poll.
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Danielson for me when the next poll rolls around. Big two way RC they can shoot and pass and and mix it up. He’s got two way smarts and is a heck of a heads up transition player through center ice. Huge fan.
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Our opinions don’t matter. Other fans pick it for us anyways.
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What a joke comment. Can you go back to your own little echo chamber, please? Unless you think you're smarter than all of the NHL GM's who are high on all 3 of these guys. Not a single one to my knowledge has talked about Leonard having limited upside, or Reinbacher having 1D upside.
More importantly you're not a fan of the team and you're not welcome here.
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#1 Defenders are more valuable than top-6 wingers, that’s what I think Reinbacher has compared to Leonard.
Dvorksy I could stomach at 6 more but even then, Reinbacher scored more than Dvorsky in a better professional league, as a defender.
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And you’re wrong. Which is ok. It happens to all of us sometimes.
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I bolded it for ya buddy.
You’re framing your incorrect appraisal of these two prospects with a false equivalence. Which is a logical fallacy and not an actual argument.
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You can be ignorant all you want, fact of the matter is A #1 defender such as Miro Heiskanen is more valuable than a top-6 winger such as Jesper Bratt.I bolded it for ya buddy.
You’re framing your incorrect appraisal of these two prospects with a false equivalence. Which is a logical fallacy and not an actual argument.
Who Do you think should go at #6?
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It’s amusing that you accuse me of ignorance after inviting a debate, when it seems your idea of an argument is just to pile up logical fallacies like ad hominem and false equivalence.
Like quite a few actual NHL scouts, I’m of the opinion that David Reinbacher would be a reach at 6th overall, and there are forwards likely to be available at that spot that project better.
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Bob McKenzie recently polled head scouts from 10 NHL teams. He compiled their rankings and published them on lottery day. Those NHL head scouts had Dvorsky 6th, Leonard 7th and Benson 8th, on average. Any of the three would be a great fit for us. As would Michkov, who averaged out to 5th.
Reinbacher, on the other hand, was ranked 10th, on average for this poll.
@CraigsButton, you can read all about it here:
Plenty of intrigue after Connor Bedard in Bob McKenzie's NHL Draft Lottery Edition ranking | TSN
There is no doubt whatsoever who will be taken No. 1 overall in the talent-laden 2023 NHL Draft. Beyond that, though, at Nos. 2 through 5? Check out TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie's Top 12 Lottery Edition Draft Ranking.
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I think he has the potential to be, yes he has already played against men and with a great degree of success.
And I agree, Montreal’s selection is up in the air reports vary from Reinbacher, to Dvorsky to Smith.
I’m accusing you of ignorance because you didn’t read my post, it seems.
Reinbacher scored more points than A top forward prospect (Dvorsky), who played in a lesser league. I think that’s reason enough to think that Reinbacher projects better.
Appreciate this, I believe Reinbacher wasn’t ranked on the first rendition of Bob’s list, finished 20th in the mid season list and now shows up at 10th. Shows upward progression throughout the season, which is always a good sign when it comes to NHL prospects.Bob McKenzie recently polled head scouts from 10 NHL teams. He compiled their rankings and published them on lottery day. Those NHL head scouts had Dvorsky 6th, Leonard 7th and Benson 8th, on average. Any of the three would be a great fit for us. As would Michkov, who averaged out to 5th.
Reinbacher, on the other hand, was ranked 10th, on average for this poll.
@CraigsButton, you can read all about it here:
Plenty of intrigue after Connor Bedard in Bob McKenzie's NHL Draft Lottery Edition ranking | TSN
There is no doubt whatsoever who will be taken No. 1 overall in the talent-laden 2023 NHL Draft. Beyond that, though, at Nos. 2 through 5? Check out TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie's Top 12 Lottery Edition Draft Ranking.
Can’t wait to see what his final rankings say. I’d probably have Reinbacher around 7 or 8 myself, which is right around the range of this #6 selection.
Reinbacher in the mix for me on my list with Dvorsky, Bensen, Leonard, and Sandin Pellika. I will trust our scouts with whomever they decide is our guy. Michkov is the guy i want to be honest
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This is foolish. You must be new to following NHL drafts if you think 17 year old point totals tell the story of NHL projection. Ten years ago, Nic Petan doubled Ryan Hartman’s point totals in their CHL draft eligible seasons. Should Petan have been drafted first? You don’t need to go back a decade. You can find many such examples in every single draft class.
True. He could jump higher than 10th in the final poll. But not if you listen to the 4 anonymous NHL scouts that Thomas Drance just recently interviewed. They all seem to think that Reinbacher is a reach at 10th overall.
NHL scouts poll: Who should the Canucks be hoping for with the 11th pick?
To get a sense of the industry view of the 2023 draft class, we reached out to veteran amateur talent evaluators from across the league.
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So, @CraigsButton, I’d like to ask if all of those 14 NHL scouts are also “ignorant”?
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Im happy with Smith, Leonard or Benson. Michkov scares me but if we pick him, I would assume BA and co. did their due diligence and are confident in getting him here(in 3 years). If thats the case I also would want Simashev and But later in the first. Just go all in on the Russians (and save on Duolingo).
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My opinion has little value but if Michkov is available at 6 we have to pick him. The guy does stuff no one else can. But if not, I like Benson. Hard worker and I am just not a fan of laziness on the job or in a sport so he would be my choice although there are so many to like that I will let the scouts decide.
12th is tough. Some of who we want at 6 might be available at 12 so that is up in the air. If we picked Reinbacher here I would be ok with that. Yager also would be great because he is elite PK'er. I don't know. There are some tough choices. And unfortunately a lot of what I like are always the smaller guys.
12th is tough. Some of who we want at 6 might be available at 12 so that is up in the air. If we picked Reinbacher here I would be ok with that. Yager also would be great because he is elite PK'er. I don't know. There are some tough choices. And unfortunately a lot of what I like are always the smaller guys.
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I said the same about Reinbacher.
If Reinbacher was a 2024 draft eligible player, he likely isn’t in the top 5 defenseman taken.
Get two great forwards and move along. Fill up on D prospects in later rounds. Next years first round selection is very likely a defensive prospect, and one that’s better than Reinbacher
If Reinbacher was a 2024 draft eligible player, he likely isn’t in the top 5 defenseman taken.
Get two great forwards and move along. Fill up on D prospects in later rounds. Next years first round selection is very likely a defensive prospect, and one that’s better than Reinbacher
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I really like a bunch of the defenseman projected to go 20-50.
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This. Opening night at Fiesta Arena and Michkov, But, Simashev and Duda debut. Let's get Yurov in a deal with the Wild while we're at it.
The new look Аризона Койотс.
Michkov takes some of the sting off of having to constantly face Bedard as he landed in our division. The Hawks might become big rivals.
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Point watching is how you end up thinking that Reinbacher is more projectable than 10+ other forwards. Lots of people doing that. He produced at a good level for a D in a lesser league, no argument there. Didn't really produce at that same level at the WJC but maybe you can ignore that because Austria wasn't a very good team.
Now if you watch him, kind of a different story.
Does he have an elite wrister with a quick release that can fool goalies? Does he score by rifling a hard shot with lethal accuracy? Does he have the kind of smarts and hockey sense to see a guy who's open and make a crisp fast pass tape to tape? Will he make his living on the PP by having a huge slap shot that breaks the sound barrier? I could go on, but regardless of what you look for in an offensive d-man, the answer is no.
Reinbacher doesn't have any elite talents. He's a jack of all trades, master of none. His best asset is his hockey sense, but he hasn't shown that elite offensive nose that can show the route to the goal or making a good pass. He does everything he should and plays very safe, but he won't take over a game himself. Great complimentary piece and steady d-man.
To me, none of that lends itself very well to a top 10 pick. In fact only 1 scout had him top 10. Majority had him bottom 15.
Now if you watch him, kind of a different story.
Does he have an elite wrister with a quick release that can fool goalies? Does he score by rifling a hard shot with lethal accuracy? Does he have the kind of smarts and hockey sense to see a guy who's open and make a crisp fast pass tape to tape? Will he make his living on the PP by having a huge slap shot that breaks the sound barrier? I could go on, but regardless of what you look for in an offensive d-man, the answer is no.
Reinbacher doesn't have any elite talents. He's a jack of all trades, master of none. His best asset is his hockey sense, but he hasn't shown that elite offensive nose that can show the route to the goal or making a good pass. He does everything he should and plays very safe, but he won't take over a game himself. Great complimentary piece and steady d-man.
To me, none of that lends itself very well to a top 10 pick. In fact only 1 scout had him top 10. Majority had him bottom 15.
