Passchendaele
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Listening to his interview today the guy sounds so passive on the whole thing. I think he'd have been a terrible fit for the Toronto hometown hero role, i think he was just letting his agent run the show and finally put an end to it because he didn't want to leave Tampa.
Maybe it dragged out so long because he thought Tampa would eventually budge off their 8.5M offer.
You also have to consider that they came within a game of another cup final. That was recent enough that it might have helped re-affirm that he should stay.
Nor does the team take out taxes.
The only way the playing field you're talking about is really possible is if we move all 30 teams to Toronto. This is like Edmonton fans complaining about all the sunny weather in other cities.
There are a lot of reasons why a player may or may not want to play in a city. Taxes are one of them.
I think the players parents are the ones funding their youth hockey.It costs at least $10,000 a year to play AAA in the GTHL.The arena owners(government)charge rent for ice time and it's not cheap.Hockey Canada also charges a fee to register a team,but that is nothing compared to the actual cost.
Tax evasion?
I don't even care about the extra advantage to winning (don't remember what it's like), but 60 of 68 million of the contract in bonus money? I hope someone goes to jail for this. White collar crime out in the open if you ask me.
Exactly why my son will never play in the NHL, it's become an elitist sport and I can't afford it on a single income. Sucks too because my son is goin to he huge, athletic and both his parents are high level Personal Trainers.
If hockey Canada wants us to continue to pump out new talent they'll need a way to subsidize it.
Whatever Finland started doing 10 years ago is clearly working. If we don't adopt a new model Canada's dominance in hockey with quickly deteriorate. In 25 years future power will be USA, Russia, Finland, Sweden while Canada will be in that second tier.
You still pay taxes on a signing bonus genius.
Tax evasion?
I don't even care about the extra advantage to winning (don't remember what it's like), but 60 of 68 million of the contract in bonus money? I hope someone goes to jail for this. White collar crime out in the open if you ask me.
Less than my rate...
Hint: I don't make 8.5 million
If you don't understand why the structure of the deal is shady, I won't be explaining it for you any further
Less than my rate...
Hint: I don't make 8.5 million
If you don't understand why the structure of the deal is shady, I won't be explaining it for you any further
Tampa fans have been absolutely slagging Stamkos for awhile when it appeared he wouldn't be back with the team. Most were in favour of Stamkos leaving to make room for the other players on the team that will need deals.
Yet this thread has mainly been about these fans getting on Leafs fans for hoping he'd come north.
What about all the crap you were saying about Stamkos? That he's lost a step, isn't the same player, not worth much beyond 7m/yr if that at all.
Many also said he was the forth or fifth best player on the team.
I get the sense that most of you are happier that he didn't go to Toronto over totally screwing your cap and forcing you to part ways with Kucherov, Palat, etc., in the near future.
You might want to read up on some tax codes...
I really don't care to read tax codes in a country I don't live in. I get that you want to defend the deal, but you don't seem to care that he is paying less than a FAIR share. Tax codes only benefit the rich. This is not being salty about you signing Stammer - keep and enjoy him.
I have a feeling attitudes about taxes are much different in your country, so it's fine if we don't see eye to eye. That's about as much as I feel like getting into this on a touchscreen tablet though. Again...enjoy Stamkos
Listening to his interview today the guy sounds so passive on the whole thing. I think he'd have been a terrible fit for the Toronto hometown hero role, i think he was just letting his agent run the show and finally put an end to it because he didn't want to leave Tampa.
Its a SALARY CAP. Teams should not have an inherent unfair advantage on the SALARY that players make. The most important peice is the take home pay. How is this difficult.
Well the bolded is quite a step back from tax evasion and shady dealings isn't it? That's what you were alleging earlier.
Never been West I see. We have more sunny weather than a person can handle, it's just -20C and sunny. Temperature doesn't even tell the whole story.... Conneticut at 5C feels much colder due to humidity.
Back to Stamkos - Florida is great for weather
Not really. Evading paying your full share. You can get your legal definitions out, but that just protects people that don't want to pay the same percentage as the average joe. Here it would be over 50% tax if I earned that. He'll pay....15%? Only about 3 million/year difference.
I really don't care to read tax codes in a country I don't live in. I get that you want to defend the deal, but you don't seem to care that he is paying less than a FAIR share. Tax codes only benefit the rich. This is not being salty about you signing Stammer - keep and enjoy him.
I have a feeling attitudes about taxes are much different in your country, so it's fine if we don't see eye to eye. That's about as much as I feel like getting into this on a touchscreen tablet though. Again...enjoy Stamkos
No - why so salty really?
He has not been a top 3 player on this team since his leg injury, which means that he is probably the 4th or 5th best player on our team. No matter where he signs, in comparison to the other players on the Tampa squad, he has played like the 4th/5th best player on our team since 2014.
That's why people didn't want to sign him to an albatross of a contract because that would kill our depth long term (i.e. losing Killorn and maybe Bishop).
We didn't think he was worth $10.5m, which was the going number for the most time. He still isn't, no matter if he plays in Tampa, Toronto or for the HC Kunlun Red Star.
People have been split on the new Stamkos deal since day 1, there is no consensus opinion that he would not be worth $8.5m in Toronto but would be in Tampa. He has lost a step, thanks to injuries and what not. Nobody is lying about that - We are just being honest, that's why people are still cautious about his new contract, I mean, it's pretty damn long.
To be honest, maybe it's you who are just disappointed that the homecoming story fabricated by Canadian media didn't come true?
Not disappointed. I mean, sure, having Stamkos would have been just perfect for the Leafs, but they're doing great things and rebuilding. This takes time and as a fan I've already accepted that it'll be a couple of years before the Leafs are back in contention.
Not salty at all: just pointing out the double standards and ridiculous posts that are glorified sighs of relief that he didn't come to Toronto.
People are dreading the Leafs will be good. Not getting Stamkos really doesn't change that they have a great future.