Proposal: TBL - PIT
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Gurglesons
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Doesn’t make any sense for PIT to make that trade. Howard would be the main piece coming back if they are eating Rakell’s contract and taking Sheary. If Tampa wants Rakell at full value, I’d want a second and that’s it, but likely makes no sense from Tampa’s cap perspective.
Vasilevskiy
The cat will be back
Well Rakell @ 50% definitely fetches a 1st+ or a good prospect+
So if Tampa doesn’t want to trade him then he probably goes elsewhere
The deal seems fair to me. Howard is having a good year, but he’s not some highly touted prospect I don’t think it’s an unreasonable ask.
Take out Howard and the phone call ends immediately. It would then become the dumbest trade the Pens could make.
Rakell at 50% for a 2nd and Sheary is not closer, lol.
Empoleon8771
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Yeah I didn't mean just a 2nd and Sheary just for clarity. But it sounds like Howard is highly thought of so probably has a bit more value than this deal suggests (or Tampa are just hyping him up to seem that way). 2 x 2nds would be where I was thinking as a base rather than a 2nd and Howard.
He's $850k per year when sent down so hardly a huge problem for them
DistantThunderRep
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Ragamuffin Gunner
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What's the point for PIT? If they're not getting a much better return for Raks, they should just keep him playing with Sid.
His cap hit is minor, no chance it costs a 2nd
Replace Howard with a 2026 1st
Empoleon8771
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St. Louis paid effectively a 2nd and 3rd to move out Hayes at 2 years and $3.5 million. I don't think Sheary at $2 million will be much cheaper. Probably a 3rd if I had to guess.
It's not really 2 million, he's pretty close to the league minimum so burying him costs us less than half that, as someone already pointed out. Larger salaries you can't bury as well.
Empoleon8771
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No his cap hit is literally $2 million. That $850k or whatever cap penalty is just the penalty Tampa has for burying him.
Gurglesons
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Empoleon8771
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That is factually how it works. Sheary's cap hit is $2 million, and Tampa Bay can bury league minimum plus like $350k of that $2 million in the minors. That's why Sheary's cap penalty is showing up as $850k, because that is the amount above the allowable burying limit.
So in other words, 850k of his contract counts against the cap. Like I just said.
If I am missing something, you're not explaining it very well.
SomeDude
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If you think this isn’t a good return for Rakell, then you’re setting yourself to be extremely underwhelmed for what he gets when he is dealt.
If a prospect of Howard’s upside and a 2nd were on the table, Dubas better accept it.
Randy Butternubs
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Definitely some miscommunication in this thread but let me try to help out.
Sheary's full NHL cap hit is $2M. Teams are allowed to bury players in the minors but they can only "hide" a cap hit of whatever the league minimum is ($775k) plus $375k.
2,000,000
-775,000
-375,000
=
$850,000
Sheary counts $850k towards the cap if he is buried in the minors.
Sheary's full NHL cap hit is $2M. Teams are allowed to bury players in the minors but they can only "hide" a cap hit of whatever the league minimum is ($775k) plus $375k.
2,000,000
-775,000
-375,000
=
$850,000
Sheary counts $850k towards the cap if he is buried in the minors.
Man it’s going to be tough for Sid to get a point per game this season if they trade Rakell. Should shut him down now, play Jarry , Graves to help the tank.
There would be an immediate league tanking investigation if all of those things happen haha
As long as Rust stays healthy and Crosby/Rust combo should be enough to get him to PPG pace
Rakell should absolutely be traded for max value to prepare for future
