Taylor Hall…. HHOF?
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He would just be the first player to win the Hart and Conn Smythe and not get in the hall
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If he didn't have injuries he'd be in first ballot
With the injuries and sustained declined as a result hes in the hall of better than Corey Perry but wont be in the hall of fame (who will get in despite being undeserving) aka the hall of very good
With the injuries and sustained declined as a result hes in the hall of better than Corey Perry but wont be in the hall of fame (who will get in despite being undeserving) aka the hall of very good
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Sooner or later, there will always be someone who meets the previously-considered "automatic lock" criteria who obviously doesn't belong. Usually, the voters are smart enough to recognize this fact.
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He can get in with a ticket like most other people.
If he placed 4th instead of winning won a fluke Hart would this even be a question?
He isn't making the into the HHOF unless he buys a ticket he hasn't written his own.
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“Fluke” or not he still won, no?
How many players have won a hart and not gotten in before taking into account potentially a cup and conn smythe too
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Uncle Scrooge
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Hall in the HHOF just feels wrong. Sure, if he were to win the cup and smythe like the OP suggests, his trophy case looks good.
But other than that one year with the Devils and maybe during some of the early hype on the young run n gun Oilers, I’ve never felt like this is a future hall of famer.
Often injured, fell off in his early 30’s, hit 70 points only twice, and just a few years ago on the Bruins Cassidy basically said Hall doesn’t play winning type of hockey. Which was true. He’s been an offensive minded player who wasn’t the best at utilizing his teammates or make the right plays defensively consistently.
Hall is a good player, but relative to his draft status or MVP season, most of his career you ended up wanting more from this player. This playoff run kinda makes you forget all about that.
If he had more of that 17-18 Devils play then it’d be a no-brainer, but he doesn’t.
But other than that one year with the Devils and maybe during some of the early hype on the young run n gun Oilers, I’ve never felt like this is a future hall of famer.
Often injured, fell off in his early 30’s, hit 70 points only twice, and just a few years ago on the Bruins Cassidy basically said Hall doesn’t play winning type of hockey. Which was true. He’s been an offensive minded player who wasn’t the best at utilizing his teammates or make the right plays defensively consistently.
Hall is a good player, but relative to his draft status or MVP season, most of his career you ended up wanting more from this player. This playoff run kinda makes you forget all about that.
If he had more of that 17-18 Devils play then it’d be a no-brainer, but he doesn’t.
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To the committee it probably does
HF Boards have higher standards than the actual HHOF.
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Hall of Fame isn't just about accomplishments and accolades, especially in borderline cases. The issue with Hall despite his accolades is that he's got no adversity in his story, which hurts his borderline case. He's basically a cookie cutter upper middle class white hockey playing kid growing up in some Canadian suburb, these types are a dime a dozen.
Compare to his peer Seguin who may not have the accolades like a Hart and a hypothetical Conn Smythe, but accomplished all that he accomplished despite growing up in the hood
Compare to his peer Seguin who may not have the accolades like a Hart and a hypothetical Conn Smythe, but accomplished all that he accomplished despite growing up in the hood
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Rightfully so. It speaks to how much of an outlier that one regular season and this one postseason have been when compared to the rest of his career
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Maybe, if he can figure out how to buy one.
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He finished top 10 in points 3 times (6, 6, 9)
It's easy to forget because after being one of the top scoring players from 2012-13 to 2013-14, he had 3 seasons in a row of disappointing production before his resurgence as a top scorer in 2017-18. Then went back to irrelevancy.
All things considered he was aging pretty poorly.. then suddenly he's the leading scorer on a team in the SCF.
Hall was injured on top of being inconsistent, but the outlier of 2017-18 wasn't his production seeing as he's finished 6th in scoring before, it was him being a Hart candidate.
It was a fluke both in terms of it being an incredibly weak year and the weakest winner in the last 25 years AND it being to a guy who clearly wasn't the best player in the NHL (McDavid won the Lindsay that year and a guy like Claude Giroux had 102 points while being a vastly superior two-way player).
Hall has 4 seasons over 53 points and 2 seasons over 65 points in his career, as a one-dimensional offensive player in a fairly high-scoring era. He isn't even close to being a HHOF player.
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The HHOF should be reserved for the elite (offensively and/or defensively). Hall is not part of the elite. There are already too many undeserving players in the HHOF.
It's becoming like a participation trophy.
It's becoming like a participation trophy.
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