Proposal: Tarasenko to NYR
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Sparksrus3
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This makes less sense now than it did in the off season. There is no cap space. Do people on this board understand cap space? Do they even try?
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Not sure how the Rangers would make it work cap-wise. I’m sure the Isles would be all over Tarasenko though.
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One I think the guy they want to trade is Kratsov, so I see him as a part of any deal. The Dallas 1st would likely be part of the deal. Another prospect addressing a St. Louis need, and my guess is they would be willing to dump Ryan Reaves intimidation factor for the chance to put up a 30% PP. Even half retained by St. Louis that's still $1 million short at least of making it under the Cap. So a 3rd party retention seems necessary, which probably costs the Rangers a 2nd, in recent trade history. Only way I see around that is sending a player like Sammy Blais to the minors and carrying 12 forwards, 7 d, 2 goalies, but that's Cap Hell for injuries.
That seems like a lot to pay for a guy who would only be a rental. Even with losing some dead cap and some UFAs, the number of RFAs to be re-signed would negate any chance of re-signing Tarasenko it seems.
NY Isles have more Cap space but what do they have to offer besides draft picks? Is there a blue chip prospect in the Isles pipeline?
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Yes, Raty, but they won't trade him and a 1st for a rental. Prospect pool is too thin. More likely to be Wahlstrom. Or just picks. Price for Tarasenko could be higher if he's willing to sign right away, like Pageau did.
Give it up
Rangers not dealing youth and depth for expensive vet rental.
Youth for youth, maybe depending on who for who
but not youth for vets
Tara is not chopped liver, full props there.
But by all means, yes, pls do have Isles deal younger, more cost controlled W for vet counterpart.
Maybe a small + short term; not a + long term.
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Best thing the Blues did was to NOT trade Tank when he requested out.
Built up his value real nice giving them a 2nd asset that really jump start any retooling.
What the Blues can get for Tank and ROR at the deadline will be huge in addition to clearing out quite a bit of cap space.
The turnaround for this franchise could be limited to one off-season.
Built up his value real nice giving them a 2nd asset that really jump start any retooling.
What the Blues can get for Tank and ROR at the deadline will be huge in addition to clearing out quite a bit of cap space.
The turnaround for this franchise could be limited to one off-season.
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Last year the Rangers gave up a 1st, 2nd, and Morgan Barron for Andrew Copp and 4th, and without him they probably don't get to the ECF...I'm looking at the team the way it's contstructed this year, and there still seems to be a top 6 defecit, awaiting the emergence of a dominant Lafreniere. I don't know what the pressure is to win in NY, but Tarasenko to me put the Rangers back as legit contenders. Kane too. Otherwise it's looking like tough sledding. Rangers are seeing separation from the top 3 in front of them, and in that battleground for WC spots, which is probably not the spot they want to be in with so much talent on their roster. I'm not sure what kind of young player for young player trade the Rangers can make that significantly improves them. Who's the young player going out and the young player going in?
Not saying/implying Rangers are above/beyond need/ability to improve.
I AM saying that setting aside identifying a vet piece who is an improvement/likely to be a rental, that such win now moves are statistically crazy bad. Like 99% of the time bad. Like the last one to succeed was NFL's Rams, and only then b'c 49ers were too stupid to replace injured starter Jimmy G w.backup. Remember, the reality of all or nothing extreme win now means championship or bust; improvement doesn't cut it --- and the expense of acquiring the asset remains as an after effect of a season that, regardless of any other measure, comes up short.
Now not every situation applies to a contender like it does to my current NYR squad.
In NY's present case, they have good youth/depth throughout the lineup.
So by one viewpoint it could make sense to deal potential youth for actual star vet.
But that view is in a vacuum and as a result, flawed.
Were there no salary cap, it could change the picture.
But cap is real, hard and unforgiving.
So realizing this reality, I am advocating NY keep its youth, only dealing same when there is sufficient excess, and take advantage of fact that:
youth = less seniority so = less salary which = greater cap flexibility
which in turn =
better roster mgmt
What I want is NY to keep its [mostly younger] core, let it gel together.
I want them to sign KA Miller sooner than later so it will be cheaper to do long term deal
I want them to keep Kakko, Chytil etc
I am expecting they will have to sell Lindgren for pick and squeeze every nickel until Trouba and bread can be moved
So adding a Tara is counterproductive to the above.
As to what youth for youth, I am still checking out possibilities
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If they don't reach the ECF, they also don't give up a 1st in the deal. Tarasenko and Kane are 2 deals NYR should absolutely explore, but not right now. They don't have the accrued cap and they're playing themselves into being a wild card team at best. Until that changes I'm not sure making the move pushes them to another potential deep playoff run.
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This does make sense if the Blues stink by the deadline . They would have to eat 50 and take Reaves and maybe Blais back
Could swap Greiss and Halak for cap reasons too
High draft pick to STL maybe a 1st
Could swap Greiss and Halak for cap reasons too
High draft pick to STL maybe a 1st
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LOL, do you have any other ex Blues to send us? Not that I would mind having any of those 3 back. The Blues need someone like Reaves to fire up the team when they are low on energy. There's a lot that can happen between now and the deadline, but based on what I'm reading here I'm not sure the Blues and Rangers would be good trade partners.
Blues will get better offers with competition driving up legit suitors, like Isles
Teams at end of/with shorter window will be more desperate to overpay go "all in"
Teams at end of/with shorter window will be more desperate to overpay go "all in"
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Kane hasn't been very good for Chicago. The reports were Kane would wait until the trade deadline and accept a trade to a Stanley Cup contender. The Rangers are a borderline wildcard team right now with no cap money. The Rangers need another D more than another winger. The Rangers have many needs and no money. All of these short term injuries are eating away at whatever cap space they have.
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He's gonna probably go to Buffalo in the summer if I had to guess. I think he plays his final year out in Chicago.
