Value of: Tarasenko (50%) @2.5M

[Sun God Nika]

I kind of wanted Ottawa to sign this guy but seeing that the market is looking pretty nice to sellers right now what can you see your team giving up for this rental?

He is on pace for about 60 ish pts 20 ish goals this year. Has played responsibly away from the puck as well this year.

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[Draiskull]

Holland will be interested but won't give up a 1st rd pick for a rental.

2nd + prospect with a guy like Janmark going back (cap) would be best from Oilers.

 

[wintersej]

I’m super curious if WPG and VAN set the market or if what they paid is going to look silly when teams are picking up some of the second tier guys for much less.

 

[NyQuil]

Solid player, really liked him in Ottawa.

Apparently he likes it here too which is surprising.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Lindholm and Monahan play a premium position. Tarasenko does not. Some good wingers have still come under the 1st round pick line in this more aggressive era (Zuccarello, Dzingel, Nyquist, Hall, Rakell, Domi).

 

[La Bamba]

He'd fit in perfectly on the Oilers. I'd pay up a 2nd and Petrov.

RNH - McD - Hyman
Kane - Drai - Tarasenko
Foegele - McLeod - Perry
Holloway - Ryan - Brown
Janmark/Gagner

Best forward group in the league with plenty of depth

 

[xjoeyc23x]

Boston for a pick and prospect?

Marchand - Coyle - Tsenk

 

[FerrisRox]

I’m super curious if WPG and VAN set the market or if what they paid is going to look silly when teams are picking up some of the second tier guys for much less.

I don't think there's a scenario where they look silly because the market is very thin at centre.

There are a lot of teams that were looking to add a top six centre and with Lindholm and Monahan off the board there's not a ton left. They paid what they paid to ensure they got what they wanted.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Ya I rather try keeping Tarasenko over a second round pick, even if it’s only till the end of the season

 

[TeamRenzo]

Solid player, really liked him in Ottawa.

Apparently he likes it here too which is surprising.

I hope the Sens hold onto Vladdy and sign him to an extension

 

[NyQuil]

I hope the Sens hold onto Vladdy and sign him to an extension

2 years maximum - not sure of the cap implications.

Not sure if anyone else would give him more term.

 

[dumbdick]

Sens should try to extend him. He's been good playing all down the lineup.

I expected him to be pure scoring support but he competes and contributes quite a bit more than I expected.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

If it's not a 1st (especially with the cap retention), hard pass. I'd sign him to 5M x 2/3 years.

 

[bert]

Holland will be interested but won't give up a 1st rd pick for a rental.

2nd + prospect with a guy like Janmark going back (cap) would be best from Oilers.

Well he's a better player than Monahan so that's just not gonna do it. Unless that prospect is Broberg or Holloway then maybe that's a conversation.

He was traded for a first last year. This year with retention he makes less money and isn't coming off an injury. Don't see why he won't get the same.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Holland will be interested but won't give up a 1st rd pick for a rental.

2nd + prospect with a guy like Janmark going back (cap) would be best from Oilers.

The Oilers don't need to send a Janmark type as cap, they can just waive him and hope he slides through and then we still have him if needed for playoff depth. Anything under around 1.1 can be buried, so if we're dumping "cap", it needs to be a contract valued higher than that.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Well he's a better player than Monahan so that's just not gonna do it. Unless that prospect is Broberg or Holloway then maybe that's a conversation.

He was traded for a first last year. This year with retention he makes less money and isn't coming off an injury. Don't see why he won't get the same.

He's a better player, but one GM overpaying for Monahan doesn't mean all GM's will suddenly start overpaying for all available forwards. 2 first have already been traded, how many more 1sts do you think will be traded this deadline? And do you honestly feel that Tarasenko is going to be one of the next best available guys, going for a 1st when there still haven't been any defensemen traded yet? I mean, its possible, but not a guarantee. I'd just wait until closer to the deadline if Ottawa is set on a 1st for this guy.

Really, I'd prefer to see Holland go after a 3C or a RD upgrade on Ceci if he's doing anything.

I don't think there's a scenario where they look silly because the market is very thin at centre.

There are a lot of teams that were looking to add a top six centre and with Lindholm and Monahan off the board there's not a ton left. They paid what they paid to ensure they got what they wanted.

If either guy just tanks it on their new team, their GM will look a little silly, but no more silly than the GM's who make deadline deals that don't work out every other year, and it will really only be fans laughing at it.

 

[Draiskull]

Well he's a better player than Monahan so that's just not gonna do it. Unless that prospect is Broberg or Holloway then maybe that's a conversation.

He was traded for a first last year. This year with retention he makes less money and isn't coming off an injury. Don't see why he won't get the same.

Yeh, unless the prices drop considerably I don't think Oilers are landing Tarasenko.
Holland just doesn't give up 1sts for rentals.
Maybe Broberg+ low pick is a possibility but certainly not Holloway. The plus would need to come from the OTT side in a Tarasenko for Holloway swap.

 

[inthewings]

Yeh, unless the prices drop considerably I don't think Oilers are landing Tarasenko.
Holland just doesn't give up 1sts for rentals.
Maybe Broberg+ low pick is a possibility but certainly not Holloway. The plus would need to come from the OTT side in a Tarasenko for Holloway swap.

What does Holloway have right now? 2nd round value maybe? And Ottawa is adding to Tarasenko to acquire him?

 

[Draiskull]

What does Holloway have right now? 2nd round value maybe? And Ottawa is adding to Tarasenko to acquire him?

Why would Holloway have 2nd round value?
His value is about the same as where he was drafted.

He is going to be a contributing member of Oilers top 9 this season and will only go higher with experience.

 

[inthewings]

Why would Holloway have 2nd round value?
His value is about the same as where he was drafted.

He is going to be a contributing member of Oilers top 9 this season and will only go higher with experience.

I don't think any fans of teams projected to pick in the top-20 of the draft this year would offer up their pick for Holloway. I could be wrong.

 

[McDoused]

Why would Holloway have 2nd round value?
His value is about the same as where he was drafted.

He is going to be a contributing member of Oilers top 9 this season and will only go higher with experience.

because fans outside Edmonton only stat watch and don't see him play.

 

[Draiskull]

I don't think any fans of teams projected to pick in the top-20 of the draft this year would offer up their pick for Holloway. I could be wrong.

Sure, this is hockey's future site where prospects are glorified. Maybe depends upon where your team is at. A contender would easily pick Holloway over a mid first round magic bean.

5+ yrs of Holloway > one run with Tarasenko

 

[inthewings]

Sure, this is hockey's future site where prospects are glorified. Maybe depends upon where your team is at. A contender would easily pick Holloway over a mid first round magic bean.

5+ yrs of Holloway > one run with Tarasenko

Isn't Holloway himself still just a mid first-round magic bean? Unless I'm unaware of a recent breakout, he hasn't established yet that he's going to produce in the NHL and we're coming up on 4 years since he was drafted.

 

[KevinRedkey]

If he's willing to sign a fair deal for 2 years, I'd prefer to extend him. I'd maybe go as high as 3yrs but the cap hit would need to be a bit of a bargain.

Otherwise the asking price is probably a 1st or an equivalent prospect that Ottawa could use (no LD for example)

 

[LTIR]

Solid player, really liked him in Ottawa.

Apparently he likes it here too which is surprising.

He likes OTT??? Extend that man now....!!!!!