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Kings News: Tanner Pearson Signs 2 Year Contract Extension (AAV $1.4M!)

I thought Pearson would get in the 2-2.5 range, however thought that would be on a 3 or 4 year deal
Very happy with this
 
Nice signing. The injury cost Pearson money. A player can't really get much when he only has a 12 goal, 16 point regular season (career totals 23 points in 67 games) to go along with a 12 point in 24 game playoff run.
 
kingsfan said:
Great contract. And some said $3 million per. An injury doesn't cut your contract by more than half.

On to Toffoli.
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3 is too much money.

damacles1156 said:
The injury had nothing to do with it.

Ryan Johansen and Jayden Schwartz set the market for bridge deals.

3.0 million for a 60 point 30g dominant Center (Johansen)

2.0 million for a 25g 50p winger (Schwartz)

Both coming off ELC, and 21 to 22 years of age.

Thinking if the Kings don't purchase any UFA from Toffoli, he will come right in around 2.2 million. If the Kings do buy some UFA from Toffoli, he will get more AAV. Probably around 3.5 million.
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I could see where someone would be tempted to define the market as players coming off of an ELC 21/22 years of age and throw out Johansen/Schwartz. These two players are not comparable to Pearson because they play for different teams/coaches. I know playing for a different coach would make that much of a difference...

Johansen 19:45 TOI/G

Schwartz 18:12 TOI/G

Pearson 13:18 TOI/G

Pearson's ice time is a lot less then the other 2 despite him being one of the better scorers on the team. Also I'm willing to guess Johansen/Schwartz get considerably more PP time. Because Sutter is putting Pearson in a more difficult position then the others and players like Brown/Stoll/Williams get PP play time over him, despite not earning it, their point totals are not comparable.

Just forget about that Pearson has to earn his ice time crap... like what leading the team in goals and getting 10-11 mins some nights... :laugh:


What is comparable is that Pearson is out preforming King/Lewis in the same system. The injury added uncertainty to his future and Kings got a discount because of it.
 
I like to read about how a coach that has been to the WCF 3 years in a row, and won 2 Stanley Cups doesn't know what he is doing.

Hey, but if the Kings had a different coach then Richards production would be up, and ya know Pearson and Toffoli would be 60-point a season players. Those things trump winning cups?
 
Not to get too far off topic, but I think Lombardi would LIKE to buy some UFA years from Toffoli, but he might want to keep the AAV as low as possible to sign Stoll/Williams for one more year while Shore & Andy Andy develop. Not that I agree or disagree with that, just trying to get into his mind.
 
Sybil227 said:
Not to get too far off topic, but I think Lombardi would LIKE to buy some UFA years from Toffoli, but he might want to keep the AAV as low as possible to sign Stoll/Williams for one more year while Shore & Andy Andy develop. Not that I agree or disagree with that, just trying to get into his mind.
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Very doubtful that Williams signs a one year contract. Stoll might, but JW will probably be signing his last professional contract and will want to get as much as possible.
 
Trolfoli said:
3 is too much money.




I could see where someone would be tempted to define the market as players coming off of an ELC 21/22 years of age and throw out Johansen/Schwartz. These two players are not comparable to Pearson because they play for different teams/coaches. I know playing for a different coach would make that much of a difference...

Johansen 19:45 TOI/G

Schwartz 18:12 TOI/G

Pearson 13:18 TOI/G

Pearson's ice time is a lot less then the other 2 despite him being one of the better scorers on the team. Also I'm willing to guess Johansen/Schwartz get considerably more PP time. Because Sutter is putting Pearson in a more difficult position then the others and players like Brown/Stoll/Williams get PP play time over him, despite not earning it, their point totals are not comparable.

Just forget about that Pearson has to earn his ice time crap... like what leading the team in goals and getting 10-11 mins some nights... :laugh:


What is comparable is that Pearson is out preforming King/Lewis in the same system. The injury added uncertainty to his future and Kings got a discount because of it.
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You are comparing ufa years to rfa years. They aren't comparable.
 
King'sPawn said:
You are comparing ufa years to rfa years. They aren't comparable.
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And a non arbitration eligible RFA at that (Lewis was UFA contract; King was arbitration eligible RFA contract). For the same player, a UFA makes more than an arbitration eligible RFA, who makes more than a non arbitration eligible RFA.

Similarly, I would hesitate before using Schwartz's $2.35 million AAV as a direct comparable for Toffoli due to free agent status/rights. Schwartz was in the unique position, like Jack Johnson back in 2009, where he wasn't even eligible to be offer sheeted due to not having the required years of professional experience. These players (see Schwartz, Krug, and Reilly Smith last offseason, Jack Johnson back in 2009, Erik Johnson back in 2010) have little to no leverage and take very cheap deals. Nick Shore will be in this position this offseason.
 
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Sybil227 said:
Not to get too far off topic, but I think Lombardi would LIKE to buy some UFA years from Toffoli, but he might want to keep the AAV as low as possible to sign Stoll/Williams for one more year while Shore & Andy Andy develop. Not that I agree or disagree with that, just trying to get into his mind.
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If Stoll resigns, I just dont know what to say anymore.
 
KINGS17 said:
I like to read about how a coach that has been to the WCF 3 years in a row, and won 2 Stanley Cups doesn't know what he is doing.

Hey, but if the Kings had a different coach then Richards production would be up, and ya know Pearson and Toffoli would be 60-point a season players. Those things trump winning cups?
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Nope... Sutter knows exactly what he's doing.... and I've said I'd cut him slack when he gets the offense in the top half the league.... Lucky for me that doesn't look like it's going to happen.... and the past is cool... maybe WPG losing Buflinstuff will be enough for Sutter to get in the post season?

About Pearson.... some teams would take a young player that was doing well and reward them with more ice time... or maybe give the guy, who is still 6th on the team in goals power play time... but Sutter likes the young players to build character and makes them earn every second they get.... It's just beautiful watching guys like Williams (passes to the other team more then Muzzin) and Lewis rewarded with time on the top line while a guy that can actually put the puck in the net and is better defensively then Williams gets 13 mins a game... It's cool the Kings have a huge buffer built up in the standings and don't need to worry about making the post season. :laugh:



King'sPawn said:
You are comparing ufa years to rfa years. They aren't comparable.
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This is true, but I feel a comparison between Lewis/King, in the same system/coach is a better comparison then another young forward that is getting close to 20min a night. If Pearson didn't have a broken leg, he should fire his agent for getting less then Lewis, with or without RFA/UFA years.
 
Awesome, Pearson is just great and this contract is great. I thought he'd come at a higher price than this even after only a couple years.

I can't even fathom our luck at getting a pair of rookies in him in Toffoli -- almost simultaneously -- that are legitimate Top 6 superstars. Pearson is already an All Star, very responsible, smart, and hard working with good hands and a heavy shot, while Toffoli is a pure goal-scorer with dazzling puck skills. Real impact players, the both of them. I want those two to be Kings for Life, and this is a good first step in that direction.
 
KingsCorona said:
Awesome, Pearson is just great and this contract is great. I thought he'd come at a higher price than this even after only a couple years.

I can't even fathom our luck at getting a pair of rookies in him in Toffoli -- almost simultaneously -- that are legitimate Top 6 superstars. Pearson is already an All Star, very responsible, smart, and hard working with good hands and a heavy shot, while Toffoli is a pure goal-scorer with dazzling puck skills. Real impact players, the both of them. I want those two to be Kings for Life, and this is a good first step in that direction.
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Awesome avatar
 
Trolfoli said:
This is true, but I feel a comparison between Lewis/King, in the same system/coach is a better comparison then another young forward that is getting close to 20min a night. If Pearson didn't have a broken leg, he should fire his agent for getting less then Lewis, with or without RFA/UFA years.
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If you want to compare players with similar ice time, by all means, but you might want to compare him to other players on non-arbitration RFA contracts as opposed to players who are sacrificing years of unrestricted free agency, same team or not.

Edit: The point is... this has NOTHING to do with the injury.
 
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Who's our next Tanner Pearson (scorer) going to be and when will he be on the Kings? That's what I'd like to know. It's been exciting seeing the increasing importance of Pearson and Toffoli to the team.

Savemefromtears, that was rough. Oof.
 
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PJ Kings Hockey said:
Who's our next Tanner Pearson (scorer) going to be and when will he be on the Kings? That's what I'd like to know. It's been exciting seeing the increasing importance of Pearson and Toffoli to the team.
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Probably not next season but in the near future there is Zykov and Kempe who may have opportunities to step into the lineup and contribute similar to the level that Pearson has.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
Probably not next season but in the near future there is Zykov and Kempe who may have opportunities to step into the lineup and contribute similar to the level that Pearson has.
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But does Kempe sound more like a Trevor Lewis than a Tanner Pearson, Ziggy? I keep hearing he's not much of a scorer.

Zykov I have some hope for, but it's crazy how you have to absolutely dominant in the AHL to get a shot in the big club, then you might really struggle offensively, like Nick Shore, who otherwise has been pretty good for a rookie.
 
I know Kempe's SHL numbers would seem to indicate he'd be more in line to be as productive as a Trevor Lewis, but it is difficult to judge a teenagers numbers at a pro level, especially when they have a reputation of giving more minutes to the more experienced, veteran players.

When playing against his own age group however, Kempe has averaged over a point per game. Hopefully the Kings bring him over to the AHL next season where he can be one of the top six forwards and work on his skills in NHL sized rinks.
 
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