GDT: TankTown Express: Is it getting hot in here?

[Linkens Mastery]

Bucha

Thomas going on a 2 on 1 with Tarasenko, Buchnevich, or Kyrou and scoring that beauty of a one timer goal from the LW side will never get old.

 

[joe galiba]

To add, the Blues defensive metrics at even strength put them:

30th at xGA/60
28th at SCA/60 (scoring chances against)
29th at HDGA/60 (High-Danger goals against)
28th at HDCA/60 (High-Danger Corsi against/shot attempts against)

All while averaging 52 minutes a game at even strength, which is 2nd overall in the league. Even if that means they’re not on PP. often, it also means they don’t PK as often.

This team cannot defend.

what is even worse are the games where they play well most of the game, but have that one 8 minute stretch where the expected goals against is 20ish

 

[Louie the Blue]

Very much a long shot.

17th in goals for per game
25th in goals against
10th in PP%
26th in PK%
27th in S/G
22nd in Shots against/G

This is not done sleeping giant. It’s a bad team who is only ahead of teams that are tanking and a dumpster fire.

Never said they’re a sleeping giant or anticipate them going on a long run.

Just that in a conference where half the teams make the playoffs and a bunch of teams are also mediocre or worse, that making the POs wouldn’t be a surprise.

 

[TruBlu]

Wins right now are mostly, for lack of a better term, luck. We've been doing this all season and that is why I think we've been seeing these streaky outcomes. Keep in mind we are currently in the middle of a win streak. I have no doubt a long stretch of bad games is on the horizon. I just don't see anything that points to them having finally "put it together." Wins come from overtime or one goal leads. Losses come from blowouts. I just hope we don't move ourselves out of contention for a difference maker in the draft.

 

[Xerloris]

To add, the Blues defensive metrics at even strength put them:

30th at xGA/60
28th at SCA/60 (scoring chances against)
29th at HDGA/60 (High-Danger goals against)
28th at HDCA/60 (High-Danger Corsi against/shot attempts against)

All while averaging 52 minutes a game at even strength, which is 2nd overall in the league. Even if that means they’re not on PP. often, it also means they don’t PK as often.

This team cannot defend.

Can you imagine thinking this is the goalies fault?

 

[CROTT]

It was a good goal, he never lost control. He moved his stick to make a drop pass. McDavid and Kyrou both completely lost control of the puck. McDavid was so bad 2 other people touched it before he did.

Offside is crossing the blue line, what happens after is irrelevant.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

I could get on board a scenario where the Blues are dueling Colorado for the last WC spot and knock them out at the end of the regular season. That would be a lot of fun, even if a 1st round exit followed.

 

[ChillWill1]

The Avs are pretty banged up as well and they have a pretty tough schedule coming up in February. I wouldn't be surprised if the Blues snuck in the PO. Especially if they keep stringing these wins together.

 

[Xerloris]

Offside is crossing the blue line, what happens after is irrelevant.

If you have control of the puck you can enter the zone before the puck does. We're discussing plays where players have lost control while doing so and it being called offside. Since you don't appear to understand the topic.

 

[CROTT]

If you have control of the puck you can enter the zone before the puck does. We're discussing plays where players have lost control while doing so and it being called offside. Since you don't appear to understand the topic.

Yes I do if you bothered to read my original post... I said that they need to clearly determine what is control to make it less of a open arguement/judgement. As all three players McDavid, Kyrou, and Kuznetzov made pretty much the same play and one is on the NHL's youtube page as a poster child of a good goal. They all lifted their sticks away from the puck to make a play while continuing to play the puck forward. The puck isn't constant;y touching the players stick when they have control. The rule doesn't state continued possession and control is necessary to be on side just PRIOR to entry of the players skate crossing the blue lines leading edge right from the rule book, what do you not comprehend? Do you understand the topic?

 

[Xerloris]

Yes I do if you bothered to read my original post... I said that they need to clearly determine what is control to make it less of a open arguement/judgement. As all three players McDavid, Kyrou, and Kuznetzov made pretty much the same play and one is on the NHL's youtube page as a poster child of a good goal. They all lifted their sticks away from the puck to make a play while continuing to play the puck forward. The puck isn't constant;y touching the players stick when they have control. The rule doesn't state continued possession and control is necessary to be on side just PRIOR to entry of the players skate crossing the blue lines leading edge right from the rule book, what do you not comprehend? Do you understand the topic?

Kuznetzov did not lose control. He made a drop pass. Kyrou and McDavid clearly LOST control. You have to have some kind of an issue to watch those plays and not see one is not like the other.

 

[CROTT]

Kuznetzov did not lose control. He made a drop pass. Kyrou and McDavid clearly LOST control. You have to have some kind of an issue to watch those plays and not see one is not like the other.

McDavid was making the same move to pass to Draisaitl when his stick was checked with him and the puck in the zone = on side ---> The rule is possession and control prior to entry. He played it forward across the line identically to Kuznetsov, once he's across the line playing the puck forward he's onside.

 

[Xerloris]

McDavid was making the same move to pass to Draisaitl when his stick was checked with him and the puck in the zone = on side ---> The rule is possession and control prior to entry. He played it forward across the line identically to Kuznetsov, once he's across the line playing the puck forward he's onside.

I see you have chosen to admit to having some kind of issue.

 

[CROTT]

I see you have chosen to admit to having some kind of issue.

Nope... You just don't have anything as you know you can't prove I'm wrong. A play is onside besides for delayed offside at the crossing of the blue line what happens after is not an onside/offside call. McDavid and the puck were BOTH ACROSS THE LINE when he lost control and was checked.

 

[Xerloris]

Nope... You just don't have anything as you know you can't prove I'm wrong.

McDavid never made a pass to Drai. He lost control and a Blues player touched it, then Drai passed it to McDavid and then back to Drai. Nothing you said happened actually happened. SO either you're a troll, never watched the play in question or you have an "issue".

 

[CROTT]

McDavid never made a pass to Drai. He lost control and a Blues player touched it, then Drai passed it to McDavid and then back to Drai. Nothing you said happened actually happened. SO either you're a troll, never watched the play in question or you have an "issue".

I've watched all of the plays in question, the Rule is possession and control PRIOR to crossing the blue line not after or continued that's what's in the rule book clear as day the play once the players skates breaks the leading edge of the blue line is onside, the checked pass attempt that followed is irrelevant.

 

[Xerloris]

I've watched all of the plays in question, the Rule is possession and control PRIOR to crossing the blue line not after or continued that's what's in the rule book clear as day the play once the players skates breaks the leading edge of the blue line is onside, the checked pass attempt that followed is irrelevant.

There was no pass attempt Lol. Go back to your own forum where you can all discuss how great McDavid is because no one here gives a shit about him.

 

[CROTT]

There was no pass attempt Lol. Go back to your own forum where you can all discuss how great McDavid is because no one here gives a shit about him.

There was a pass attempt McDavid's stick was in a puck playing position and was moving towards the puck to pass when he was checked. When once again him and the puck were in the zone.

 

[joe galiba]

I could get on board a scenario where the Blues are dueling Colorado for the last WC spot and knock them out at the end of the regular season. That would be a lot of fun, even if a 1st round exit followed.

after the Avs send a couple of 1st round picks for rentals at the deadline

 

[ChicagoIsBedarded]

There was a pass attempt McDavid's stick was in a puck playing position and was moving towards the puck to pass when he was checked. When once again him and the puck were in the zone.

What's the end-game here, bud?

 

[Cotton McKnight]

The fun ending and brutal defending; thank goodness for luck, too bad for the tank.

 

[CROTT]

What's the end-game here, bud?

Like I said in my first post, the NHL needs to better define what they want in terms of possession and control on these entry’s where the player enters before the puck. Cause it doesn’t state puck on stick throughout the entry or to what extent the player is allowed to make a move. The Kuznetsov goal shows that a player can play the puck into the zone while lifting their stick away.