Tanking

[Navin R Slavin]

Assuming the Canes don't come back tonight, they'll have 33 points with 48 games left to play.

92 points would give them a 50/50 chance at the playoffs. To finish with 92 points, they'll need to finish 26-15-7.

Anyone with any goddamned sense knows that this team is incapable of that pace.

So. Does the tank begin in earnest after the Whaler embarrassment tomorrow night?

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[CanesFanBudMan]

Tonight is a good night for the tank. Panthers win, blues win, kings win, coyotes are up on the Avs. We are 4 points out of last

 

[CandyCanes]

In honor of the 6 points in 5 games thread. I think we need a 3.5 points in 5 games tank thread. As that is what it would take to finish dead last in comparison to last year's Sabres record.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Bring it on I guess

 

[TheBigKahuna]

Do you have a fire sale? Unload everyone older than 24 years old?

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

I am on board with the tank. I will still watch all the games and pull for the canes to win (except tomorrow night - don’t like the Wailers night thing but that’s a different topic).

I think with a successful tank we could be decent next year and good the year after. With another game breaking forward to add to Aho and Svech (and Necas to a lesser degree) I think we may have enough high end forward talent.

We have the following pieces to deal at the deadline

- Ferland if it’s looking like he is not going to sign (potentially a first)
- Faulk and/ or Hamilton (first and a prospect)
- Rask should be up for grabs (minimal if any value)
- Williams (could be worth more than you’d think at the deadline)

Make a big splash in free agency
Package some of the deadline returns for an established top 6 forward in the offseason (money/ cap implication trade not hockey trade)

Hoping that this tank was somehow planned by Dundon from the beginning it’s a stretch but maybe he’s playing 4D chess. Best unlikely case first day of the offseason he cleans house. Hire Vellucci or Q as coach. Pay actual money for a GM.

Step 30... profit

 

[SvechneJerk]

Let's go...

Capitals
Williams, Justin
Hurricanes
2019 2nd round pick

Penguins
Staal, Jordan
Hurricanes
Brassard, Derick
2019 1st round pick

Avalanche
Hamilton, Dougie
Hurricanes
2019 1st round pick (OTT) *Unprotected

Who else? Michael Ferland? Justin Faulk?

 

[SlavinAway]

Avs are not giving up Ottawa’s 1st.

 

[A Star is Burns]

I don't see either of those last two trades happening. Definitely not the Avs one

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

Avs are not giving up Ottawa’s 1st.

Probably true, but it could give them something “real nice” for the playoffs.

 

[MinJaBen]

Spoiler alert: Ottawa’s 1st will be closer to the bubble than ours barring lucky ping pong balls.

 

[Tryamw]

So. Does the tank begin in earnest after the Whaler embarrassment tomorrow night?

It should but in March we'll feast.

 

[Wolfpuck]

Tank.

This current roster is going NOWHERE and there's no way to fix it this season.

 

[DaveG]

f***ing bring it on at this point.
Keep Rod until the end of the season because someone with no damn clue is good for the tank, but get in conversations with Q or (if he's fired) Boudreau. Rod can not be the coach of this team next season. Hell even worst case Vellucci would be a f***ing upgrade at the position. I don't care if Rod is made AGM in fact I'd prefer that, he just can't be behind the damn bench anymore after this season.
Waddell can go NOW. Offer a REAL GM or assistant GM a REAL GM position, none of this braintrust bullshit.

Out ASAP: Williams, Hamilton, Faulk, Rask (if anyone will take him)

Actually spend money this offseason, we're 20 million below the cap, and that's with over 8 million in dead money in Rask and Darling. Break out the f***ing Brinks truck and get 2 of Duchene, Stone, and Nyquist in here, we can't afford to have 1 good line + Svechnikov anymore. A real #2 center is a must, and Staal isn't one, never was one because of how Pittsburgh developed him. And we can't count on rookies until they f***ing prove it.

Use some of that money on goalie too, say Varlamov

Roll in to next season dick swinging with

Real Head Coach

Ferland - Aho - Teravainen
Svechnikov - Duchene - Stone/Nyquist
Necas - Staal I guess - Martinook
McGinn - Wallmark/Bishop - Foegele
Wallmark/Bishop, Goat

Slavin - Pesce
De Haan - Fox
Fleury - TVR

Varlamov
McBackup

 

[Canes]

Does anyone really even care about a top pick with Waddell in charge? We had the #2 pick this year, which was one step forward, then with his trades this offseason we took 2 steps backwards. It will be more of the same with Hughes or Kakko here, especially when moron Brindy is trying his best to ruin their development by playing them in the bottom 6 with talentless grinders who should be in the AHL.

 

[HisIceness]

Tank. And this time, don't f*** it up.

 

[SvechneJerk]

Spoiler alert: Ottawa’s 1st will be closer to the bubble than ours barring lucky ping pong balls.

If by closer, you mean, they end up at 9 & us at 2, then I agree.

 

[DaveG]

Does anyone really even care about a top pick with Waddell in charge? We had the #2 pick this year, which was one step forward, then with his trades this offseason we took 2 steps backwards. It will be more of the same with Hughes or Kakko here, especially when moron Brindy is trying his best to ruin their development by playing them in the bottom 6 with talentless grinders who should be in the AHL.

Step one of the tank and rebound is that Waddell MUST f***ing go. NOW.

 

[SvechneJerk]

****ing bring it on at this point.
Keep Rod until the end of the season because someone with no damn clue is good for the tank, but get in conversations with Q or (if he's fired) Boudreau. Rod can not be the coach of this team next season. Hell even worst case Vellucci would be a ****ing upgrade at the position. I don't care if Rod is made AGM in fact I'd prefer that, he just can't be behind the damn bench anymore after this season.
Waddell can go NOW. Offer a REAL GM or assistant GM a REAL GM position, none of this braintrust bull****.

Out ASAP: Williams, Hamilton, Faulk, Rask (if anyone will take him)

Actually spend money this offseason, we're 20 million below the cap, and that's with over 8 million in dead money in Rask and Darling. Break out the ****ing Brinks truck and get 2 of Duchene, Stone, and Nyquist in here, we can't afford to have 1 good line + Svechnikov anymore. A real #2 center is a must, and Staal isn't one, never was one because of how Pittsburgh developed him. And we can't count on rookies until they ****ing prove it.

Use some of that money on goalie too, say Varlamov

Roll in to next season dick swinging with

Real Head Coach

Ferland - Aho - Teravainen
Svechnikov - Duchene - Stone/Nyquist
Necas - Staal I guess - Martinook
McGinn - Wallmark/Bishop - Foegele
Wallmark/Bishop, Goat

Slavin - Pesce
De Haan - Fox
Fleury - TVR

Varlamov
McBackup

Dave, you forgot Hughes or Kaako.

EDIT: Can I add the now???

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

Just to give a heads up this is typically the kind of pessimism that leads to a 5 game win streak

 

[SvechneJerk]

Just to give a heads up this is typically the kind of pessimism that leads to a 5 game win streak

 

[DaveG]

Dave, you forgot Hughes or Kaako.

No I didn't, I don't trust us to get that lucky. But if we were to then Jordan becomes available this summer and Martinook gets to babysit the kid line of Necas-Hughes-Martinook or Martinook-Necas-Kaako.

 

[HisIceness]

I just hope tonight's game along with the disaster trades wakes Dundons ass up.

 

[Oogie Boogie]

We were able to get Svech, I don't see how the hell we get lucky enough to get Hughes.

 

[MinJaBen]

Dundon is arrogant and over his head.
He hired a GM over his head.
His GM hired a coach over his head.

It doesn’t matter if he is now woke the f*** up. He’ll just make his next dumb decision. Dumbdon.