Tank thread

[Row I Goon]

if we tank hard enough maybe we can win 2 lotteries in a row, practically guarantee ourselves a solid shot at a cup that way no?

We won a first and second in the lottery. Made the ECF last season. But the wheels are well and truly off now.

 

[The New Russian Five]

Yeah let’s tank for another 1st overall. Foolproof plan right?

Even the rangers can't screw up Bedard, right? right???

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

The sad part is even if the Rangers won Bedard, I don’t have any confidence that he’d be developed properly

That’s where I’m at with this organization as a whole right now

 

[CasusBelli]

The sad part is even if the Rangers won Bedard, I don’t have any confidence that he’d be developed properly

That’s where I’m at with this organization as a whole right now

Part of me thinks NYC comes with too many distractions for immature players to handle. Only guys with something to prove — like Callahan, Kreider, Dubinsky, McD, Hank — make it. But then I look across the Hudson, and the Devils haven’t had that problem with their younglings.

This isn’t new. Front offices and coaching staffs have turned over multiple times — for both teams. What gives?

 

[Brutananadilewski]

Part of me thinks NYC comes with too many distractions for immature players to handle. Only guys with something to prove — like Callahan, Kreider, Dubinsky, McD, Hank — make it. But then I look across the Hudson, and the Devils haven’t had that problem with their younglings.

This isn’t new. Front offices and coaching staffs have turned over multiple times — for both teams. What gives?

Have prospects rent out a place in South Bronx. When they prove their worth, they can stay anwhere they want in and around NY/NYC.

Any player that plays like shit, you move them to Brownsville/East New York. If the really screw the pooch, have them do a Meet and Greet with people in and around Penn Station and 34th Street...at 2AM!

Soviet hockey won't have shit on us!

 

[UnSandvich]

This organization would've found a way to ruin Connor McDavid if we drafted him...

On the bright side, EliteProspect's Consolidated Ranking currently has 5 C's ranked outside the Top 10 in the 1st round of this year's draft. A fair few RW's ranked high as well.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

Part of me thinks NYC comes with too many distractions for immature players to handle. Only guys with something to prove — like Callahan, Kreider, Dubinsky, McD, Hank — make it. But then I look across the Hudson, and the Devils haven’t had that problem with their younglings.

This isn’t new. Front offices and coaching staffs have turned over multiple times — for both teams. What gives?

The common denominators are Dolan and Sather. We did a half assed rebuild because god forbid Dolan who already has more money than god misses out on playoff revenue. Shit rolls downhill and the guy at the top of the hill is James Dolan.

 

[JHS]

Could be the dumbest thread on the board. We all ready have 2 top 5 picks and they both stink.

 

[haohmaru]

If we haven't learned that 1st round picks aren't the sole key to success after the last 5 years then, sure, let's tank. NINE first round picks 2017-2021.

 

[Irishguy42]

Looking forward to having multiple Berards on this team

 

[Mac n Gs]

See, this is when the This Is Not A Good Hockey Team thread should have been started, but you dopes on here don't honor tradition

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

If we haven't learned that 1st round picks aren't the sole key to success after the last 5 years then, sure, let's tank. NINE first round picks 2017-2021.

They are for other teams

 

[OldBlueshirt]

This organization would've found a way to ruin Connor McDavid if we drafted him...

On the bright side, EliteProspect's Consolidated Ranking currently has 5 C's ranked outside the Top 10 in the 1st round of this year's draft. A fair few RW's ranked high as well.

Drury will only end up drafting another LW next year in the 1st round, assuming he doesn't trade it away for a rental. And if they end up having two picks in the 1st round, then he'll grab a 2nd LW.

 

[Crease]

How any Rangers fan could still get excited about forward prospects like Othmann, Bedard, or anyone else is beyond my comprehension. Have you not been paying attention?

 

[Brief Candle]

I'm in. Bedard is going to be a monster.

 

[huerter]

 

[RangersFan1994]

Part of me thinks NYC comes with too many distractions for immature players to handle. Only guys with something to prove — like Callahan, Kreider, Dubinsky, McD, Hank — make it. But then I look across the Hudson, and the Devils haven’t had that problem with their younglings.

This isn’t new. Front offices and coaching staffs have turned over multiple times — for both teams. What gives?

Rangers can only draft well in the late rounds. Rangers got lucky with Kreider in the 1st round. No knock on Kreider but they got lucky that Kreider at least developed into an NHL player on the top 2 lines. Rangers scouting department needs a huge upgrade from the pro ranks to prospects and europe. No reason Hartford should be so bad as they are. Only thing Rangers got going for them is the prospects are not in the pro can continue to develop the right way until they come to the Rangers and begin their pro career. Rangers management needs to fix this. If their fans can notice this, I am sure that they notice this too.

 

[CasusBelli]

Rangers can only draft well in the late rounds. Rangers got lucky with Kreider in the 1st round. No knock on Kreider but they got lucky that Kreider at least developed into an NHL player on the top 2 lines. Rangers scouting department needs a huge upgrade from the pro ranks to prospects and europe. No reason Hartford should be so bad as they are. Only thing Rangers got going for them is the prospects are not in the pro can continue to develop the right way until they come to the Rangers and begin their pro career. Rangers management needs to fix this. If their fans can notice this, I am sure that they notice this too.

It just always puzzled me — the magic we do with low round picks and undrafted players. We can develop them fine … but not the high ones? You can’t make this up.

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

It just always puzzled me — the magic we do with low round picks and undrafted players. We can develop them fine … but not the high ones? You can’t make this up.

Because we inexplicably give those players ice time.

The Dan Girardis, Ryan Callahans, Jesper Fasts, etc. Now, Lundqvist was lightning in a bottle, but talking about the rest. But usually what happens is a replacement level player comes along due to injury (see Bickel, Stu), gets thrown into a role where they're expected to be completely awful, and exceeds the expectations that were unreasonably low to begin with. Bonus points if TUFFNESS or #GRIT is involved. That then prompts the coaching staff (no matter who it is) to consider that player a serious tryhard who merits a look further up in the lineup based on their superior effort, which keeps them there even as the results suffer.

On the other hand, the top prospects, with their burdensome expectations, never produce enough to justify it, which merits demotion to the AHL, the 4th line, or the press box. Of course, it's hard to produce NHL statistics in any of those places, so that becomes evidence of their lack of effort, which perpetuates the cycle.

TLDR/ expectations + skill = bad disappointment, no expectations = pleasant surprise and "superior effort" was the method to get it.

It's a franchise mentality.

 

[rangersfansince08]

Our window was one year

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Would be amazing to see Bedard on the 3rd line playing 12 mins a night with zero powerplay time next year. Sign me up!!!

 

[NikC]

So Jimmy Dolan S**T-canned Gorton/JD because:

• They didn’t believe the team was ready to contend.
• They wouldn’t stand up for one another on the ice

We all knew they overachieved last year, mostly on the back of their goalie(s) having to steal wins for them and
keep them in games they had no business being in.

So, #1 looks like to be the case and You get a player like Reeves, for a reason, and I agree with them letting him go, but where is the replacement?What’s the plan to replace his “swagger” and fighting ability? Or are the NYR just waiting for another Tom Wilson to brutalize one of their star players so that they can become demoralized even further?

 

[BleedBlueNYR]

Our window was one year

Needed to take advantage when we had Tampa on the ropes. Probably would've got smacked by the Avs though anyway.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Needed to take advantage when we had Tampa on the ropes. Probably would've got smacked by the Avs though anyway.

Yeah Avs would have humiliated us so I’m not beat up about the Tampa series

 

[zlev]

i dunno, the goalie matchup alone would've given us a chance. sure we would've got pounded 5v5 but we got pounded at 5v5 all year long and finished with 110 points and won two playoff series.