Player Discussion: Tampa Bay Lightning All Time Player Ranking #3

[JoVel]

Marty just edges out Hedman for 2nd place.

1. Nikita Kucherov 87,9 %
2. Martin St. Louis 46,2 %

 

[Coopers Gum]

Wow. I'm the only one who went Stammer? Captain of the b2b, more hardware than Hedman, set the precedent of taking discounts? How short our memories are?

Hedman is great, don't get me wrong, but I'd put Stammer ahead of him.

 

[Stammertime91]

Since I went Hedman at #2, MSL goes #3.

Stammer already got #4 on lock down. Sorry sweet prince.

 

[LightningStrikes]

Wow. I'm the only one who went Stammer? Captain of the b2b, more hardware than Hedman, set the precedent of taking discounts? How short our memories are?

Hedman is great, don't get me wrong, but I'd put Stammer ahead of him.

It’s pretty close between the two but I went with Hedman in the end: Best defenseman in franchise history, has a Norris (should’ve been at least two) and a Conn Smythe and over almost a decade has consistently been at the top of “hardest to play against” rankings by NHL players.

Ask me tomorrow and I might go with Stammer: He has two Rockets and he came back from two career-ending injuries. Ultimately his passenger style performance (despite putting up numbers) last season gave the edge to Hedman for me. His injuries definitely hurt what could have been an even greater career.

Looking at it subjectively for us fans with emotions and such it’s maybe close, objectively it’s probably not close really.

 

[The Macho King]

Wow. I'm the only one who went Stammer? Captain of the b2b, more hardware than Hedman, set the precedent of taking discounts? How short our memories are?

Hedman is great, don't get me wrong, but I'd put Stammer ahead of him.

His "hardware" is two Rockets - how is that more than a Conn Smythe and a Norris (not to mention how many times top 10 in Norris voting)?

Edit: also uncomfortable truth time. Stamkos is the worst playoff performer of the 2010s/20s.

 

[DFC]

Wow. I'm the only one who went Stammer? Captain of the b2b, more hardware than Hedman, set the precedent of taking discounts? How short our memories are?

Hedman is great, don't get me wrong, but I'd put Stammer ahead of him.

I think both Vasy and Hedman are ahead of Stamkos. He was just never a top guy in the playoffs. Maybe 2022.

 

[Sky04]

Hedman here, Stamkos has had it pretty easy his whole career

 

[JoVel]

Stamkos is very lucky that Kucherov and co came along and started carrying this team offensively. His reputation around the league would be a lot different if he had been the star forward here for the past ten years.

 

[SaucerpassfromKuch]

I went with Heddy over Stammer, but it was close call. Recency bias maybe.

 

[Power Surge]

I took Hedman but I almost went Vinny for turning the franchise around

 

[Coopers Gum]

I guess it depends to me what we're actually voting on. Pure skill? What they brought/meant to the franchise? Just who you liked best? "Greatest Lightning of all Time" is a little vague and up for lots of debate.

 

[Stammertime91]

I guess it depends to me what we're actually voting on. Pure skill? What they brought/meant to the franchise? Just who you liked best? "Greatest Lightning of all Time" is a little vague and up for lots of debate.

@JoVel made the thread, lower your standards for clarity tbh

 

[JoVel]

@JoVel made the thread, lower your standards for clarity tbh

I just left a little room for interpretation like any true artist.

 

[Rschmitz]

If anyone is wondering how MSL went #2

I am still sore over the NYR trade demand but this guy is like the George Washington of the Tampa Bay Lightning

 

[The Macho King]

Nah I don't have issue with MSL #2. Probably would've been 4 for me but those three are close.