Tampa Bay @ Carolina: Nine-Nine!

[tarheelhockey]

I was behind the goal and the puck hit the side of the net at the end and half of us thought the game was tied lol.

Yeah, when you're there in person it's surprisingly easy to be fooled by the puck looking like it's in the net. There's nothing to visually distinguish where the in-flight puck is located relative to the posts and crossbar.

I know it looks laughable on TV, but I challenge someone to sit at a sharp angle to the net and not jump at any false alarms. Especially when you've got 1000 other people sitting around you reacting to the same illusion.

 

[hockeynjune]

Yeah, when you're there in person it's surprisingly easy to be fooled by the puck looking like it's in the net. There's nothing to visually distinguish where the in-flight puck is located relative to the posts and crossbar.

I know it looks laughable on TV, but I challenge someone to sit at a sharp angle to the net and not jump at any false alarms. Especially when you've got 1000 other people sitting around you reacting to the same illusion.

LL in the corner last night and yeah a couple were "in the net" for sure

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Another still. If Skjei isn't close enough to lay out and try to poke the puck away I can't see how he's close enough to attempt to go behind Cirelli. I've played a lot of b-ball, and I have no doubt that's what Skjei was trying to do, but that decision still seems like a brain fart to me.

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Here's the video. The speed seems to make it even less likely he had any chance of going behind him as compared to laying out at an angle in front of him. I know the play required an instantaneous decision at speed, just seems like Skjei's instincts were wrong; I'd bet Slavin or Pesce at least gives themselves a chance at making a play in a similar circumstance (and yeah, I know I'm referencing 2 elite defenders).

You are analyzing all this from an armchair. On the ice, you have an instant.

It's a fast, fast, fast sport, played by the best players in the world, and sometimes you get beat.

 

[LakeLivin]

You are analyzing all this from an armchair. On the ice, you have an instant.

It's a fast, fast, fast sport, played by the best players in the world, and sometimes you get beat.

Absolutely. A couple things, though.

1. It really jumped out at me in real time when I first saw it, which is the only reason I went back to look at it.
2. Some players have better instincts (reactions?) than others. Slavin is at one end of the spectrum, I thought Faulk e.g., not so much.
3. I was surprised at how much criticism certain rags fans had for Skjei. I wonder if his decision making/ reactions at times might have played into that?

 

[bleedgreen]

I was dumbfounded by this as well. Sure, Skjei muffed the puck to start the play; stuff happens. But why in the world would he try to go behind Cirelli from this position instead of laying out in front of him? I couldn't believe it when it happened. Having said that, I've never played ice hockey. Am I missing something?

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He must think that Cirelli was protecting the puck too well to reach in front of him and get the poke check. Cirelli had so much speed Skjei may have conceded that he had to take a penalty and was going around the other side to get his stick on the right elbow to eliminate the chance. Taking a still shot like that is a poor way to look at it. When someone is shielding with their body like that you have to over reach one side or the other.

It was a nice play but probably stoppable both by Skjei and Ned.

Ps I see you added the video. Skjei didn’t have the poke and the only angle on the back of the stick was the way he went. He could’ve dove in front and maybe forced a wider angle but it’s not that odd a choice to go the way he did.

 

[tarheelhockey]

It's not wrong to say Skjei made the wrong call on that play. In 20/20, slow-mo hindsight he could have put a stick on that puck and a body on Cirelli, driving him toward the post where Ned was reading the direction of the play.

That being said, it's worth noting that Skjei did get around him with the stick. He didn't fail at the attempted move... he just got there a split-second after the shot was released.

I think he and Ned both expected the same thing, a drive to the post. The backhand shot was really well placed to get under the blocker and still catch net on the far side.

 

[bleedgreen]

It's not wrong to say Skjei made the wrong call on that play. In 20/20, slow-mo hindsight he could have put a stick on that puck and a body on Cirelli, driving him toward the post where Ned was reading the direction of the play.

That being said, it's worth noting that Skjei did get around him with the stick. He didn't fail at the attempted move... he just got there a split-second after the shot was released.

I think he and Ned both expected the same thing, a drive to the post. The backhand shot was really well placed to get under the blocker and still catch net on the far side.

Yup, it was an early release. I don’t think he had the poke check to be honest, at least I get why he felt like he didn’t have it.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

All of which is to say, Cirelli made a great play, because part of making a great play is forcing those defending you to make decisions that you can exploit.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

I'm surprised to read this. Your fans have always seemed to me to be good, knowledgeable fans. Booing people for leaving is ridiculous. How do they know what the person's reason for leaving is. I enjoy when we play Carolina. It's been a breath of fresh air after all the classless nonsense with the Panthers.

EARLY ON SVECHHAMMER MENTIONED THAT THOSE FOLKS WERE LIKELY NEWLY ACQUIRED BANDWAGON.

I'm telling you it was bad.

I'm talking less than 2 mins to go, down 2, and they are ruthlessly booing people who have seen enough and are heading for the exits. And I'm talking about people who clearly have mobility issues needing extra time to get up the stairs, and they're calling them fake fan motherf***ers.

Mind you, this is in STM sections and those who left I saw almost nightly in our seats while the ones who were starting everything I had never seen before.

Had Svech not scored to interrupt things, there would have been a fistfight. Things were escalating quickly.

 

[tarheelhockey]

EARLY ON SVECHHAMMER MENTIONED THAT THOSE FOLKS WERE LIKELY NEWLY ACQUIRED BANDWAGON.

It also really needs to be emphasized that there's a huge difference between a fan who runs in the door at 7:25 on a Tuesday for a regular season game, versus a fan who has been tailgating for 4 hours ahead of a playoff game.

It can be the same person, but they are two entirely different creatures when it comes to the chemical makeup of their bloodstream.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

It also really needs to be emphasized that there's a huge difference between a fan who runs in the door at 7:25 on a Tuesday for a regular season game, versus a fan who has been tailgating for 4 hours ahead of a playoff game.

It can be the same person, but they are two entirely different creatures when it comes to the chemical makeup of their bloodstream.

Understandable. Having so much blood in your alcohol... IT CAN CHANGE A (WO)MAN.

 

[hockeynjune]

It also really needs to be emphasized that there's a huge difference between a fan who runs in the door at 7:25 on a Tuesday for a regular season game, versus a fan who has been tailgating for 4 hours ahead of a playoff game.

It can be the same person, but they are two entirely different creatures when it comes to the chemical makeup of their bloodstream.

OMG, there were intoxicated people there? It's always bad but some of those past playoff games with the Sabres...just sayn

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

I didn't even notice that the puck bounced right over Skjei's blade as he attempted to play it outside the line. How unlucky.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I didn't even notice that the puck bounced right over Skjei's blade as he attempted to play it outside the line. How unlucky.

Yeah, that's one of those little things that can happen to anyone at any time. Not really his fault per se that it suddenly became a partial breakaway with zero warning.

 

[HisIceness]

I'm surprised to read this. Your fans have always seemed to me to be good, knowledgeable fans. Booing people for leaving is ridiculous. How do they know what the person's reason for leaving is. I enjoy when we play Carolina. It's been a breath of fresh air after all the classless nonsense with the Panthers.

I guess it's like everything else, success brings out new customers and some of those customers by default are going to be assholes.

The game I went to in your quote was a Saturday night home opener with high excitement for that season (that ended up being a dud but that's another story). Lot of tailgating, I'm guessing the assholes I witnessed were heavily drinking prior to puck drop. Probably the same thing with the group that the other poster was talking about.

Fwiw though I love our fanbase compared to the Panthers (NFL) and Hornets.

 

[Tryamw]

Wasn't Tapi the person who wanted us to trade Aho for a second?? Or was it futures

 

[LakeLivin]

Wasn't Tapi the person who wanted us to trade Aho for a second?? Or was it futures

It was for futures, and he was pretty strong in his conviction, lol.