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TSN: Sweeney praised by other GMs for work on TDL day

DKH said:
I just can’t think of anyone here - you are right there probably is someone else I just can’t think of anyone other then Don Godfather

I hope there are a couple others
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I’ve been a Sweeney supporter from Day 1, and I won’t apologize for it either. BUT, I’ve been pretty hard on him about the moves he made THIS PAST SUMMER, and I was vocal about that when it happened, not after our season turned to shit. Simply put, I think he made some really bad decisions, and BECAUSE of those decisions we had to dump assets at the deadline and retool. Including trading #63. I agreed with that move, as well as his other TDL moves, but ALL of that could have been avoided if he hadn’t f***ed up the roster over the summer in the first place. Yeah, you can take the easy way out and blame Monty. Not me…

I AGREE with you, that this team can get back to the post season sooner, rather than later. But I ALSO don’t think Sweeney should get a free pass. He burned a lot of goodwill with me this year. I’ll give him one more year to fix the stuff HE screwed up, but he’s on probation as far as I’m concerned. Neely too.

And NO, Sacco isn’t the coach to do it, either…..You can add that to the list of bad decisions he made over the past 12 months.
 
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RoccoF14 said:
I’ve been a Sweeney supporter from Day 1, and I won’t apologize for it either. BUT, I’ve been pretty hard on him about the moves he made THIS PAST SUMMER, and I was vocal about that when it happened, not after our season turned to shit. Simply put, I think he made some really bad decisions, and BECAUSE of those decisions we had to dump assets at the deadline and retool. Including trading #63. I agreed with that move, as well as his other TDL moves, but ALL of that could have been avoided if he hadn’t f***ed up the roster over the summer in the first place. Yeah, you can take the easy way out and blame Monty. Not me…

I AGREE with you, that this team can get back to the post season sooner, rather than later. But I ALSO don’t think Sweeney should get a free pass. He burned a lot of goodwill with me this year. I’ll give him one more year to fix the stuff HE screwed up, but he’s on probation as far as I’m concerned. Neely too.

And NO, Sacco isn’t the coach to do it, either…..You can add that to the list of bad decisions he made over the past 12 months.
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Feels like we are back to making the playoffs is a win for the team, when that's not how it was mapped it. Clearly the goal was to have a "bridge/retool" year without 37 and 46 and the big overage cap hit then be back to being a Cup contender this past year with a Vezina winning goalie as trade bait and 26 million dollars to spend. This season was a disaster and now we are all embracing the tank like that was the plan. the GM could not have had a worse summer. They have won two rounds in the past five seasons and are now the worst team in not only the division but the conference. I don't see any quick fixes, and don't see why we would expect the teams in front of the Bruins to get worse.
 
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RoccoF14 said:
I’ve been a Sweeney supporter from Day 1, and I won’t apologize for it either. BUT, I’ve been pretty hard on him about the moves he made THIS PAST SUMMER, and I was vocal about that when it happened, not after our season turned to shit. Simply put, I think he made some really bad decisions, and BECAUSE of those decisions we had to dump assets at the deadline and retool. Including trading #63. I agreed with that move, as well as his other TDL moves, but ALL of that could have been avoided if he hadn’t f***ed up the roster over the summer in the first place. Yeah, you can take the easy way out and blame Monty. Not me…

I AGREE with you, that this team can get back to the post season sooner, rather than later. But I ALSO don’t think Sweeney should get a free pass. He burned a lot of goodwill with me this year. I’ll give him one more year to fix the stuff HE screwed up, but he’s on probation as far as I’m concerned. Neely too.

And NO, Sacco isn’t the coach to do it, either…..You can add that to the list of bad decisions he made over the past 12 months.
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Sacco absolutely should be the coach

The team didn’t quit and tbd players RESPECT this guy more then the last guy

Pastrnak became a super star and leader last 60 games under him at his encouragement ~ Sacco preceded Pastrnak. He’s the one guy he’s always had abd it’s not a coincidence whets happening

Monty benched Geekie on the mid west trip and gee????? Who was Geekie on the ice with working on his game ??? Hmmmm
First thing he fid was make him a regular

Who’s got Lindholm going

Who had the balls to bench Marchand in overtime and it not be an issue when he was playing like ass
 
LJReborn said:
Being the worst team in the conference is fine. Why would anyone hold the team architect accountable?
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Well because the architect has a strong track record. Because it was a disaster of a season that didn't have much to do with the GM? Should he have predicted he would lose his #2 defenseman for 80% of the season, and then lose his #1 defenseman in an midseason exhibition series?

Maybe his #1 goaltender having a disaster season after missing camp was predictable, and at least somewhat on him.

ANd finishing last as we all know is a result of the injury, and the result of the decision to sell a ton at the deadline. Had they stood pat at the deadline they would have finished somewhere in there 10-12 spot in the pre lottery draft standings
 
I am Bettman said:
Ullmark turned into a first and won a vezina here, well worth the signing. Carlo just got us a first and a good prospect after years of serviceable play. Reilly was a bust. Hall was good while he was here. Frederic got us a second and was pretty good for two years before this one. Forbort was a solid penalty killer for us. Haula got us Zacha so not sure what you are complaining about.
Out:
Ullmark, Carlo, Frederic, Haula

In:
1st rounder 2024
1st rounder 2026
Fraser Minten
Pavel Zacha
Mark Kastelic
2nd round pick

Seems pretty reasonable.
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If you're going to list what the Bruins got for those guys (you're "out" list), shouldn't you also indicate that they didn't get anything for guys like DeBrusk, Foligno, Hall, Boqvist, Grizz, etc? Also tough to think of Frederic as a positive, using a 1st round pick to get a 2nd a few years later after developing him.
 
DKH said:
I just can’t think of anyone here - you are right there probably is someone else I just can’t think of anyone other then Don Godfather

I hope there are a couple others
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As much as I criticize Sweeney, I think he'd be a good choice for a rebuilding team - he's methodical, studied, focussed and a student of the game. He's hardworking and very involved in scouting - he isn't as communicative or likeable as Kent Hughes and hasn't had as good a track record as Zito or Jim Nill so is easy to diss, but he's never really had to start from scratch either - I'd be confident in him if he had assets to build a winning franchise.

A healthy Mac and Lindholm will go a long way in building back some love amongst his detractors - and if Poitras, Lysell, Lohrei, Minten and a good 1st rounder take the next step everyone here will kiss Sweeney's butt for being a genius.
 
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JoeIsAStud said:
Well because the architect has a strong track record. Because it was a disaster of a season that didn't have much to do with the GM? Should he have predicted he would lose his #2 defenseman for 80% of the season, and then lose his #1 defenseman in an midseason exhibition series?

Maybe his #1 goaltender having a disaster season after missing camp was predictable, and at least somewhat on him.

ANd finishing last as we all know is a result of the injury, and the result of the decision to sell a ton at the deadline. Had they stood pat at the deadline they would have finished somewhere in there 10-12 spot in the pre lottery draft standings
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Did I miss the part the part when they were actually good at any point this season? He did put the team together. He may have traded the wrong goalie. His UFA summer was not good at all. He has zero scoring talent on the team other than 88 and 39 (who is more a product of playing with 88)

Losing Hampus Lindholm is the difference between being a cup contender and last in the conference?

He does have a track record, of good regular seasons. Do you ignore getting past round 2 once in a decade? Maybe that's not what it is about for you? He was a fine GM, He would do well for someone else I am sure, but his time here should be over. What is the threshold for success? Just hope he can get them back to a play-off team that can win a series every now and then?
 
DKH said:
Sweeney handling of the trade deadline and the 30 Day retool/rebuild would make General George Patton proud.

His WW II tank sits at Patton Park in Hamilton ~ been on it many times as a kid played a lot of baseball over there ~ Donny should pose for a picture after his near masterful recovery of a season and future hemorrhaging

Thank you Donny

Seriously. Everyone else spends 24/7 365 pointing it out

Besides I’m watching the Masters
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Actually Patton's Ace up his sleeve was Agawam native Creighton Abrams who had a tank named after him also. My Dad was a Captain in Patton's 3rd Army and told me about Abrams role in the 4th Armored Division. So lets give him some recognition
also...lol.
 
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Fingertools said:
If you're going to list what the Bruins got for those guys (you're "out" list), shouldn't you also indicate that they didn't get anything for guys like DeBrusk, Foligno, Hall, Boqvist, Grizz, etc? Also tough to think of Frederic as a positive, using a 1st round pick to get a 2nd a few years later after developing him.
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Fingertools said:
If you're going to list what the Bruins got for those guys (you're "out" list), shouldn't you also indicate that they didn't get anything for guys like DeBrusk, Foligno, Hall, Boqvist, Grizz, etc? Also tough to think of Frederic as a positive, using a 1st round pick to get a 2nd a few years later after developing him.
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You got nothing for DeBrusk, Regula and Mitchell for Hall, Nothing for Bertuzzi, Hathaway, and Orlov, I think that leaves the book open on Sweeneys, GM tenure.
 
Not that I think this likely, but could it be that Charlie told Sweeney to leave and salvage some dignity or else they will fire him?

I guess it could be something innocuous like Sinden retiring, but he's been so far in the background for so long I don't see that as "game changing."
 
Deal Law said:
Not that I think this likely, but could it be that Charlie told Sweeney to leave and salvage some dignity or else they will fire him?

I guess it could be something innocuous like Sinden retiring, but he's been so far in the background for so long I don't see that as "game changing."
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My guess would be Neely resigning. Would Neely resigning be one way the general public could tolerate one more year of Don Sweeney?
 
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