Swayman Vs The Bruins

[Dr Jan Itor]

How can you possibly call the man selfish? He's negociating his salary at work. This is his career, what feeds his family.

The reason i hate hard salary caps like in the NHL is that it unjustly turns the fans against the players. Don't be like that.

Well, under Boston's current cap situation, demanding/getting $9M instead of taking $8M will cost another player their NHL job and salary. So he's putting his additional $8M over that players' NHL dream, ability to feed his family.

 

[WhataKnight]

God, I f***ing hate winter but I’m glad hockey is back.

That said, Neely and the Bruins can hang their coat on “44 games max” like a hook made out of diamond. Bussi isn’t that much older (screw it; give him a shot) and while Swayman absolutely has the right to seek what he believes he’s worth, likely due to his agent, he doesn’t seem to be willing to accept that there could be a way to negotiate this contract in a way that doesn’t immediately weaken the Bruins.

It’s partially the B’s fault for trading Ullmark and signing Zadorov and Lindholm before minding the mess in their own closet. Still, Swayman seems to display an inflexibility here on a level from which, after those arbitration hearings obviously stung him as they did, he and/or his agent seem incapable of vacating.

From a managerial perspective, this matter getting so loud risks steering any return on a trade intended to open cap room for Sway to straight-up ‘abfall’, and while Swayman is dealing with numbers rooted in hypotheticals, that “44 starts” number the Bruins can point at is etched in record.

I don’t believe Swayman is explicitly greedy. I do think Lewis Gross is an explicit wanker.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(Everyone wishing their management played hardball like they do in Vegas? Bear witness.)

 

[Ulysses31]

He is 100% correct. I'll never begrudge someone trying to get the most money they can for a job.

However, it kinda ignores the bombshell dropped about him writing down the negatives that were used against him in arbitration and him being pety towards the team. That is killing Swayman in the court of public opinion now because to some it comes across that he is acting like a woman airing dirty laundry for a Netflix show. If he writes that down for personal motivation and nobody knows? No problem with that. However, he did not do that. He did nothing but damage his rep by making that info public and is now further creating a circus around the team.

Contract holdouts happen all the time across sports and that is a routine circus. It gets worked out. Leaking arbitration pettiness against an organization does not happen all the time, and now that has throw a big thing of fuel on the fire and made this a bigger deal than it should be.

/agree, bout the paper n chainz

 

[RobsonStreet]

Well, under Boston's current cap situation, demanding/getting $9M instead of taking $8M will cost another player their NHL job and salary. So he's putting his additional $8M over that players' NHL dream, ability to feed his family.

NHL teams have a minimum roster size (20) and minimum salary ($775,000). No player is falling into poverty or unemployment over this. Leon Draisaitl’s new deal didn’t trigger a humanitarian crisis, come on now.

 

[BB79]

How can you possibly call the man selfish? He's negociating his salary at work. This is his career, what feeds his family.

The reason i hate hard salary caps like in the NHL is that it unjustly turns the fans against the players. Don't be like that.

Yeah, his family would be in poverty eating out of the dumpster behind the Garden with that slave labor 8x8 contract. How can Neely sleep at night?!

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

NHL teams have a minimum roster size (20) and minimum salary ($775,000). No player is falling into poverty or unemployment over this. Leon Draisaitl’s new deal didn’t trigger a humanitarian crisis, come on now.

I said or implied nothing of the sort.

 

[MoneyManny]

We are talking generational wealth here, not what feeds his family. More like "will my great-great grandchildren have a winery in Tuscany or not?".

What does it matter to you what his paychecks look like? To him it's still a job.

Yeah, his family would be in poverty eating out of the dumpster behind the Garden with that slave labor 8x8 contract. How can Neely sleep at night?!

 

[MoneyManny]

Well, under Boston's current cap situation, demanding/getting $9M instead of taking $8M will cost another player their NHL job and salary. So he's putting his additional $8M over that players' NHL dream, ability to feed his family.

Then trade him to a team that's willing to agree to his demands. It's not on the players to fit the team under a salary cap.

 

[SensontheRush]

What does it matter to you what his paychecks look like? To him it's still a job.

Weird Ad Hominem.

Then trade him to a team that's willing to agree to his demands. It's not on the players to fit the team under a salary cap.

You'll be hard pressed to find a team that would be willing to give him the money he wants. Name just one even.

A player can think they are worth $100m, but if the most any one team in the league is willing to pay him is $1m, they are worth $1m.

 

[RobsonStreet]

I said or implied nothing of the sort.

My mistake; I guess we agree that under Boston's current cap situation, demanding/getting $9M instead of taking $8M won’t cost another player their NHL job and salary and won’t materially impact another player’s NHL dream or their ability to feed their family.

 

[WhataKnight]

Not mad at Swayman (except for employing Gross.)
Not even mad at Neely.

This is a Lewis Gross issue in my eyes until it’s proven untrue, given his tendency for rocky negotiations.

If the two sides could negotiate as well as they attempt to nutshot each other, Swayman could have been amenable to a short “bet on yourself” deal that didn’t require the Bruins to cuff themselves before the cap inflation provided the room to get Swayman a handsome, commensurate-with-Cup-winning-goalie-in-new-Cap-era deal.

I see a team stubbornly sticking to their guns on current Cap structure, a VERY good tandem goalie hoping he can throw a tantrum loud enough to distract from that 44 starts maximum long enough to get a contract that pays him like he puts those numbers up across 60……and an agent possessing both a track record for this kind of shit and willingness to flap his junk at the Bruins - as demonstrated with Torey Krug already.

Gross looks like the critical point of failure to me. And if he does hold grudges ever? Shit…..a successful attempt to “Borgia” a franchise to hell and back and possibly set them back some years in goal after turning the relationship between player and team to shit?

It isn’t like indicators of pettiness don’t already exist - Krug & Nylander.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Ridiculous or wrong? It would be ridiculous but it wouldn't be wrong of him, just dumb.

That is wrong.

Especially when his teammates share the same pool of money