OT: Summer Fitness Thread

[NickyFotiu]

I lose weight so slowly. Now I'm not on a strict protein or strict anything diet. I eat potatoes, ice cream, etc just in moderation. I do watch my total calories and work out a bit. I'm 171.5 now after losing 1 pound. I'd like to get down to 159.5 so I have 12 pounds to go.

 

[SeanAveryTheGreatOne]

I had my first MMA fight in May and won it. Now I'm about to do a Spartan race. I was a skinny skeleton who did no sports growing up. It's an interesting feeling to become an athlete as an old man.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I had my first MMA fight in May and won it.

Congrats!

Where do you train at?

 

[SeanAveryTheGreatOne]

Congrats!

Where do you train at?

Thank you very much, brother! I train at Pariah MMA in Colorado Springs (man do I miss NY!). Do you train, my friend?

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I started Orange Theory, have had three lessons this past week. Can someone explain what mentally deranged people love cardio? I feel like I'm being waterboarded every time I go.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Thank you very much, brother! I train at Pariah MMA in Colorado Springs (man do I miss NY!). Do you train, my friend?

Mostly just Jiujitsu these days at Gregor Gracie’s gym in Brooklyn Heights (semi recently minted brown belt!)

 

[kovazub94]

I lose weight so slowly. Now I'm not on a strict protein or strict anything diet. I eat potatoes, ice cream, etc just in moderation. I do watch my total calories and work out a bit. I'm 171.5 now after losing 1 pound. I'd like to get down to 159.5 so I have 12 pounds to go.

I don’t want to discourage you but speaking from a personal experience as we get older (I’m 50) these “potatoes, ice cream in moderation” become factors in trying to lose pounds - I lost 13 lbs since winter when I decided to cut sugar, starch and certain grains but while I’d like to move another 4-5 lbs it’s been a no-go for a few months. Doesn’t bother me to change anything else.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I don’t want to discourage you but speaking from a personal experience as we get older (I’m 50) these “potatoes, ice cream in moderation” become factors in trying to lose pounds - I lost 13 lbs since winter when I decided to cut sugar, starch and certain grains but while I’d like to move another 4-5 lbs it’s been a no-go for a few months. Doesn’t bother me to change anything else.

When I lost my 60 pounds or so cutting carbs it worked like a charm. Now I gain or maintain and the diet doesn't help me lose weight anymore.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

When I lost my 60 pounds or so cutting carbs it worked like a charm. Now I gain or maintain and the diet doesn't help me lose weight anymore.

If you aren’t correctly adjusting your calories/tracking how many you’re burning this is going to happen.

No different than any other style of diet.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

If you aren’t correctly adjusting your calories/tracking how many you’re burning this is going to happen.

No different than any other style of diet.

Well my diet isn't as strict as it once was also. But my point is I go on vacation gain weight, come back and eat better. But I don't necessarily lose weight, at least nothing significant. I always figured it was my body getting used to a new diet and not being able to go down that well again. Like I once lost a ton of weight when I stopped drinking soda. When I was at my fattest my soda intake was minimal, so it didn't matter.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I don’t want to discourage you but speaking from a personal experience as we get older (I’m 50) these “potatoes, ice cream in moderation” become factors in trying to lose pounds - I lost 13 lbs since winter when I decided to cut sugar, starch and certain grains but while I’d like to move another 4-5 lbs it’s been a no-go for a few months. Doesn’t bother me to change anything else.

You are probably right. I knowingly make a decision to be less strict. I'm not overweight but I would rather be 159 than 171 for pool season. With that said I decided that food is one of my life pleasures. I do not want to give up an occasional 200 calories of French fries or 140 calories of M&M in moderation.

 

[kovazub94]

You are probably right. I knowingly make a decision to be less strict. I'm not overweight but I would rather be 159 than 171 for pool season. With that said I decided that food is one of my life pleasures. I do not want to give up an occasional 200 calories of French fries or 140 calories of M&M in moderation.

My problem that forced me to make a change were physical illnesses I started regularly getting because of inflammations. This was more of a factor than just “vanity” - didn’t have a problem buying bigger clothes but I didn’t want to start slowing down physically.

 

[Chytilmania]

I started Orange Theory, have had three lessons this past week. Can someone explain what mentally deranged people love cardio? I feel like I'm being waterboarded every time I go.

I am very anti Orange Theory. Your feelings aren’t off base lol. Too bad you’re in Brooklyn I run “Strongman” classes in my gym in Garden City.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I love interval training but if it’s the basis for your program it’s not a good one.

HIIT really shouldn’t be done more than twice a week at most. I think anything that asks you to redline your body on the regular should be ignored but that’s just me.

 

[Machinehead]

I'm 252 and proud!

You guys gotta see this garlic sauce I'm having. It's unbelievable.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I'm 252 and proud!

You guys gotta see this garlic sauce I'm having. It's unbelievable.

Is it tasty on your hat?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I play beer league one a week and that’s it.

Beer guts all around in that locker room

 

[Machinehead]

Is it tasty on your hat?

I don't think we did the thing we needed to do for me to eat my hat

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I love interval training but if it’s the basis for your program it’s not a good one.

HIIT really shouldn’t be done more than twice a week at most. I think anything that asks you to redline your body on the regular should be ignored but that’s just me.

What does redline mean? I'm going three times a week.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

What does redline mean? I'm going three times a week.

High volume+High intensity. Anything that can be considered max effort or as you put it "like being waterboarded" LOL.

Why OTF though? Just giving it a try?

 

[SnowblindNYR]

High volume+High intensity. Anything that can be considered max effort or as you put it "like being waterboarded" LOL.

Why OTF though? Just giving it a try?

I was going by myself and not seeing results and I figured it was easier to go to a group class that's near me and cheaper than personal trading which hasn't worked for me in the past.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I love interval training but if it’s the basis for your program it’s not a good one.

HIIT really shouldn’t be done more than twice a week at most. I think anything that asks you to redline your body on the regular should be ignored but that’s just me.

There is new research that suggests longer runs/jogs at a pace where you can still hold a conversation is just as beneficial or more than HIIT.

Theres definitely a place for it if you are training as an athlete/or for a sport, but it puts a lot of stress on the body. Even though stresses/exertion lead to gains, its not always the case with Cardio.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Going to do my first round of PSMF next week. Not super excited but after 10 weeks of lifting and eating 180-220 grams of protein per day, I'm ready for a break and to cut some fat.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I was going by myself and not seeing results and I figured it was easier to go to a group class that's near me and cheaper than personal trading which hasn't worked for me in the past.

Got you. Did you try changing your diet or training or going to a different trainer?

If you end up enjoying OTF then by all means go for it but these crazy cardio centric programs where they sell you on your calorie expenditure just aren't it IMO.

There is new research that suggests longer runs/jogs at a pace where you can still hold a conversation is just as beneficial or more than HIIT.

Theres definitely a place for it if you are training as an athlete/or for a sport, but it puts a lot of stress on the body. Even though stresses/exertion lead to gains, its not always the case with Cardio.

That tracks.

Things that a person can do more frequently with out feeling like shit when they're done are things that they're going to be more likely to continue doing. Thats before even getting to the lowered risk of injury.

Crazy cardio based training isn't really great for body composition either but thats another conversation entirely. Cardio should really supplement a fat loss journey (mostly for the benefits that it provides independent of calorie expenditure), not drive it.

 

[kovazub94]

There is new research that suggests longer runs/jogs at a pace where you can still hold a conversation is just as beneficial or more than HIIT.

Theres definitely a place for it if you are training as an athlete/or for a sport, but it puts a lot of stress on the body. Even though stresses/exertion lead to gains, its not always the case with Cardio.

Moderate HIIT volume (to eliminate discussion of harms) is surely more beneficial than conversational-holding pace jogs that do little to train one’s heart. Then there’s a muscle growth aspect that’s largely missing in slow jogging.

Got you. Did you try changing your diet or training or going to a different trainer?

If you end up enjoying OTF then by all means go for it but these crazy cardio centric programs where they sell you on your calorie expenditure just aren't it IMO.




That tracks.

Things that a person can do more frequently with out feeling like shit when they're done are things that they're going to be more likely to continue doing. Thats before even getting to the lowered risk of injury.

Crazy cardio based training isn't really great for body composition either but thats another conversation entirely. Cardio should really supplement a fat loss journey (mostly for the benefits that it provides independent of calorie expenditure), not drive it.

Any activity is better than none but I’m entering age group where there’s a stronger emphasis on muscle building over “basic” staying active.