Reaves is a 35+ player even if u send him down it still counts against the cap the whole salary.
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Wow I did not know this about the cap. Here I thought them signing him was useless but not damaging. Wow that was a stupid signing.
It wouldn't be to open up cap space, moreso to open up a roster spot for a younger player. When the Devils bought out Mike Cammalleri in 2017, they had the most cap space leaguewide entering that offseason. Nico Hischier and Jesper Bratt subsequently made the roster as rookies.
As it stands, the Sharks have under contract:
LHD: Ferraro-Vlasic-Thrun(RFA)-Mukhamadullin
RHD: Rutta-Benning-Burroughs-Emberson(RFA)-Addison(RFA)
Losing Vlasic opens up a spot for Thrun and/or Mukhamadullin. Possibly Grier would be looking to change the D via trade as well.
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Jeff skinner should be on this list. Doubt anyone’s taking him on for three more years even at 50% retained
Captain97
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Because of Reaves contract structure he is not subject to normal 35+ buyout rules. Capfriendly breaks it down if you go to buy out his contract and explains why
Most 35+ contracts yes, Reaves was setup so it can be bought out. If you buy him out on capfriendly it explains why
The question wasn't can you buy him out. It was can you bury the contract in the AHL. Can you do that?
Captain97
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I believe so yes, if you bury him manually on capfriendly it gives you a ~200k penalty instead of full cap hit
Then the contract is really not a big deal. I had no idea about the 'no burying' clause for over 35 players. Would make me think twice about some of those contracts
Gecklund
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And that means they have one senior LHD that they were apparently looking to trade. Just doesn’t make sense,
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Dvorak maybe for the Habs, but even then I'd be surprised.
Anderson - at 50% retained would get something.
Gallagher- along with Anderson aren't hindering anything at this point.
Armia - 1 year left and has been better this year. Could even be dealt at the deadline for a 5th, or something.
Dvorak - gets hurt a lot and aside from his first year here he's been very meh when he's played. He's on his last year, though so they might just go with him, or use their last retention spot to get him out.
Anderson - at 50% retained would get something.
Gallagher- along with Anderson aren't hindering anything at this point.
Armia - 1 year left and has been better this year. Could even be dealt at the deadline for a 5th, or something.
Dvorak - gets hurt a lot and aside from his first year here he's been very meh when he's played. He's on his last year, though so they might just go with him, or use their last retention spot to get him out.
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No he shouldn't and he won't be
Channelcat
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The guy who will end the year with 60 points(has 56 now), and will be paid 4M starting next year? Teams would be lining up to trade for that production and contract.
gdsmack267
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I'm honestly at the point where I'd rather buy out Petry than Holl.
Petry's buyout is two years shorter, the 2nd year is only $400K, and he's an absolute liability almost every time he steps on the ice. Holl at least is just invisible most of the time unless he's f***ing up.
I guess what I'm getting at is, I think we're in better shape with Holl as our 3RD than Petry as our 2RD.
Petry's buyout is two years shorter, the 2nd year is only $400K, and he's an absolute liability almost every time he steps on the ice. Holl at least is just invisible most of the time unless he's f***ing up.
I guess what I'm getting at is, I think we're in better shape with Holl as our 3RD than Petry as our 2RD.
How’s he look in the last 20 games? What’s he doing 5 on 5? What do his possession metrics look like? Is he getting better as he ages?
Before the Kuznetsov deal I would have said Kotkaniemi was easily safe for at least one more year. Kotkaniemi can actually be bought out at 1/3 in 2024, 2025, or even 2026.
But I don't see both Kuznetsov and Kotkaniemi on the team next year. Either they give up on the Kuznetsov experiment (unlikely), or they move on from Kotkaniemi.
Considering a buyout would get them almost $4M in cap space next season, I doubt they attach much to Kotkaniemi to move on from him. It's either buy him out or trade him for future considerations or a low pick.
It's a long buyout, but the cash per year and cap hit are only $835K. Compared to an $87.7M cap, it's a small price.
But I don't see both Kuznetsov and Kotkaniemi on the team next year. Either they give up on the Kuznetsov experiment (unlikely), or they move on from Kotkaniemi.
Considering a buyout would get them almost $4M in cap space next season, I doubt they attach much to Kotkaniemi to move on from him. It's either buy him out or trade him for future considerations or a low pick.
It's a long buyout, but the cash per year and cap hit are only $835K. Compared to an $87.7M cap, it's a small price.
With minimal retention or taking some money back there would 100% be several takers. Or a team with a ton of cap space I could easily see just taking him on at full cap if the cost is low, like if you're Chicago why not throw one of the best shooters in the league on Bedard's wing and see what happens?? He's scored 40 goals before and his two seasons before this one he was hovering around a point per game on a team without much offense. Let's not get carried away
Before their deadline moves I'd have assumed they give him another year but Kuzy and Guentzel seem like good fits they'd like to keep, plus they'll have to figure something out with their back end. Given the low buyout cost for a couple more seasons there could be teams interested in taking him for free
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There are quite a few Sabres fans clamoring for this, but I just don't see it this year. I can't see us buying him out this offseason and eating a ~2.5M cap hit for 3 years after he's gone.
He's battled injury this year, and he has a history of bouncing back from poor-ish years.
If we're going to buy him out.......it'll be NEXT summer, not this one.
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I feel like with the scarcity in centres, you can move Kotkaniemi...heck even if you retained like 1M, it's not as bad.
My assumption here is that this would only be remotely possible if Blake is no longer the GM and the new management along with ownership is deciding not to give in to the sunken cost fallacy. 100% agree it's incredibly unlikely, he's a talented player that can bounce back and I'm sure they'll count on that but if they wanted to cut their losses and move on this would be the summer to do it and it's arguably the right move
Anderson will be given another year as well, doubt Montreal will use their last retention spot on him unless they're getting actual value, but they should have all three retention slots next summer and I'd genuinely be shocked if he has another year as bad as this one
They'd just buy him out at that point imo, it would cost less than $1 million. I think a bad team with cap space like San Jose, Anaheim or Chicago would all take him for free or with a very small sweetener, because they would still have two seasons to try to get the best out of him and then could just move to the 1/3 buyout route themselves if it really doesn't work out
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So the most likely scenario is a change of scenery trade with KK going back to the Habs for Anderson 
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