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The Heatley for Havlat trade was a great trade though. DW couldn't predict those fluke injuries.
Wow, you expect a lot out of mediocre declining players. How are you even calling 2010-2014 Calgary a purgatory team? They had two top 6 picks in that time period. I would call that a rebuild that failed.They were, but it doesn’t change that the facts firmly stand in the way of the idea that DW can trade any contract. Especially when you use Heatley as evidence of that when we literally traded Heatley, a 39 goal scorer we paid a solid collection of assets for, for a guy we ended up buying out 3 years later.
Because they won’t. Guys like Couture, Kane, Burns, Vlasic, and Jones will probably keep us a decent enough team to be like 5th in our division instead of 7th or 8th once they decline a bit and the Joes (who have been carrying this team for years) are gone.
We are currently in the 2013-2018 Minnesota Wild section of purgatory. Those contracts will probably send us into the 2010-2014 Calgary Flames section of purgatory.
The Heatley for Havlat trade was a great trade though. DW couldn't predict those fluke injuries.
Neither did Heatley, they both turned into corpses almost simultaneously.While that is true on the whole, it’s not like Havlat had a history of impeccable health.
and I thought the on-going discussion of grammar was the low point..We're at the point of the offseason where we're talking about Havlat now.
Lord help me.
and I thought the on-going discussion of grammar was the low point..
I only told you what I saw on nhl.com...and 61th in playoff P/60 over 8 seasons is pretty good...whether you like it or not...
We traded Heatley for a contract we ended up buying out. We’ve also bought out Adam Burish and Paul Martin in the past 5 years.
Just for the record when we traded Heatley he was coming off a more productive season than Kane has ever accomplished in his career. This idea that some team is gonna trade for Kane in 2021 when he's coming off a 43 point in 72 games season or whatever and has 4 years remaining at a $7 million AAV is ridiculous.
Sometimes you have only a little to talk about and sometimes you havlat.We're at the point of the offseason where we're talking about Havlat now.
Lord help me.
I know you're a newer fan but at the time that trade was amazing. Havlat had played most of the games for the 3 preceding years. You'd be hard pressed to find many people on this board who didn't love that trade back then. Using hind sight after Havlats fluky injury while trying to climb over the boards to try and saw otherwise is just being petulant.
Havlats time in SJ in a nutshell
I know you're a newer fan but at the time that trade was amazing. Havlat had played most of the games for the 3 preceding years. You'd be hard pressed to find many people on this board who didn't love that trade back then. Using hind sight after Havlats fluky injury while trying to climb over the boards to try and saw otherwise is just being petulant.
I know you're a newer fan
Wow, way to be condescending as hell.![]()
Hilarious that Jannik Hansen ends up in the KHL before Goldobin. What a horrible trade.
Hilarious that Jannik Hansen ends up in the KHL before Goldobin. What a horrible trade.
Why exactly? Goldobin is trash...will never be an NHL player with actual value. With Hansen the Sharks received an excellent veteran depth forward. Granted...he struggled at first but then got perma scratched despite playing well. Huge mistake by DeBoer not to play Hansen...he even got defensive when asked the obvious question about Hansen.
Now...what's worse...giving up a 3rd for an ignorant Coach who plays favourites over the best players or trading useless assets for a vet?
Reilly Walsh is an excellent prospect I'd love to see under Sharks control (of course he can still join the Sharks when he's done in Harvard but that's obviously not likely to happen)...Tim Söderlund developed very well since his draft but isn't likely to become an NHL player anytime soon. Lack of size and high end skill usually isn't a good combination. Will be an excellent player for European leagues but probably not in the NHL. 4th rounders don't work out too often anyways.
Goldobin is a 22 year old who dominates the AHL and scored at a 17-goal pace in extremely limited NHL minutes on the worst team in the league last season. It's way too early to write him off. He was never given anything approaching a legitimate chance in San Jose and then was sold at the lowest point of his value for a career bottom six forward coming off an unsustainable career season whose value was at his highest. Just awful asset management no matter how you feel about Goldobin.
Goldobin is a 22 year old who dominates the AHL and scored at a 17-goal pace in extremely limited NHL minutes on the worst team in the league last season. It's way too early to write him off. He was never given anything approaching a legitimate chance in San Jose and then was sold at the lowest point of his value for a career bottom six forward coming off an unsustainable career season whose value was at his highest. Just awful asset management no matter how you feel about Goldobin.