Sudbury Wolves 2024 - 25 Season Thread, Part I

[agillarda]

Well it's official he wants out

 

[agillarda]

I imagine we get 17 year olds plus picks unless we sit him until January which would make no sense.

 

[Kingpin794]

That's awful from a timing perspective. If they move him before the season starts, they're are more teams out there that can throw a crap ton of picks into a deal along with a player so that they get fair value. If they move him later, they could get an 08 and picks for him. Moving him now when most of the big trades already happened, and 08's can't move means that it'll be hard to get a proper return for him.

 

[dirty12]

That's awful from a timing perspective. If they move him before the season starts, they're are more teams out there that can throw a crap ton of picks into a deal along with a player so that they get fair value. If they move him later, they could get an 08 and picks for him. Moving him now when most of the big trades already happened, and 08's can't move means that it'll be hard to get a proper return for him.

Barrie and Kingston can use Musty. Erie as well, but I’m not sure Erie can pull it off.

 

[Generalsupdates]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1843291118785757391

wonder if this makes them pull out on a Molnar deal. Maybe that was just to give Musty someone to play with and try to make him happy?

 

[WolvesFanInNorthBay]

wonder if this makes them pull out on a Molnar deal. Maybe that was just to give Musty someone to play with and try to make him happy?

They have too many OA's, unless they move a different OA.

 

[Generalsupdates]

They have too many OA's, unless they move a different OA.

Molnar isn't an OA, he's an '05

 

[agillarda]

wonder if this makes them pull out on a Molnar deal. Maybe that was just to give Musty someone to play with and try to make him happy?

Possibly never know, never understood the sit and wait until Nov 1 to make it official like some said.

Depends what you can get for him though. If you get some 17 or 18 year olds you may go through with the deal who knows with RP.

 

[I Loveallsports]

Good riddance. I'm glad it happened now , and not Jan. Dude is not a winner.

 

[howlman]

Time to move on and get a nice package in return for Musty.

 

[djscooter]

Going to be a true test of Papineau capabilities, a defining moment of his career with the wolves in a way

 

[agillarda]

Will be a real test for sure, wasn't thrilled about the Thompson traded a couple years ago. Then felt like he got more when he flipped Holmes a year later. Also he never got to trade Byfield which would have likely been a similar trade to this.

 

[djscooter]

Will be a real test for sure, wasn't thrilled about the Thompson traded a couple years ago. Then felt like he got more when he flipped Holmes a year later. Also he never got to trade Byfield which would have likely been a similar trade to this.

In general his trades are big winners, or big losers, not many trades where you go "Well this was fine"

 

[howlman]

Going to be a true test of Papineau capabilities, a defining moment of his career with the wolves in a way

Defining moment for Papineau was last year with the Wolves when they should have been contenders, and he failed. But yes it's a big trade to set the rebuild on the right course.

 

[I Loveallsports]

Will be a real test for sure, wasn't thrilled about the Thompson traded a couple years ago. Then felt like he got more when he flipped Holmes a year later. Also he never got to trade Byfield which would have likely been a similar trade to this.

You can't mention Musty and Byfield in the same breath. They were not even close. 200 foot players, team player, elite skater, shall I go on..

 

[djscooter]

Defining moment for Papineau was last year with the Wolves when they should have been contenders, and he failed. But yes it's a big trade to set the rebuild on the right course.

I'd argue that was more Ken MacKenzie's defining momment. That team could have had Conor McDavid on the ice and would have lost out spectacularly. But definitely a team effort of mediocrity between Rob and Ken.

 

[agillarda]

You can't mention Musty and Byfield in the same breath. They were not even close. 200 foot players, team player, elite skater, shall I go on..

Are they the exact same no, they are both stars from their era though is what I am referring to. We need a star level package in return.

 

[I Loveallsports]

Are they the exact same no, they are both stars from their era though is what I am referring to. We need a star level package in return.

Musty is not a star. Byfield top pick OHL second overall pick NHL.

Again, it's not even close.

 

[howlman]

I'd argue that was more Ken MacKenzie's defining momment. That team could have had Conor McDavid on the ice and would have lost out spectacularly. But definitely a team effort of mediocrity between Rob and Ken.

That's Papineau's coach. Or Dario cheaped out. Both Dario/Paps blew it. In a contending year you get a quality coach. Inexcusable and that falls on Dario/Paps for appointing Ken as head coach.

 

[agillarda]

Musty is not a star. Byfield top pick OHL second overall pick NHL.

Again, it's not even close.

He was top 4 in points for the league

 

[I Loveallsports]

He was top 4 in points for the league

Comparing Byfield to Musty is not even a conversation starter

 

[WolvesFanInNorthBay]

They have too many OA's, unless they move a different OA.

Sorry, I meant Imports, they have 3 imports and need to get rid of one.

 

[dirty12]

wonder if this makes them pull out on a Molnar deal. Maybe that was just to give Musty someone to play with and try to make him happy?

The are players on the wolves for Musty to play with.
Similar to Barlow, Musty wants a change; hopefully, the wolves do as well in a trade as OS did.

He was top 4 in points for the league

#1 pts/game, I think.

 

[Voice from the North]

Something happened between Wolves training camp, which Musty reported to and played an exhibition game, and end of San Jose camp. San Jose’s brain trust were on the same page as the Wolves, discipline him and break the bad habits. Musty’s camp must not have liked that. If he doesn’t change his game, his NHL career is on the line.
The return Papineau should get here should be close to the Barlow trade because Barlow is a better player right now. Erie could be a trade partner here since it’s very unlikely the Wolves trade him within the Eastern Conference.

 

[Generalsupdates]

The are players on the wolves for Musty to play with.
Similar to Barlow, Musty wants a change; hopefully, the wolves do as well in a trade as OS did.

They better. It's a 1st overall pick to the O and 1st round pick to the NHL we're talking about. Most points of any '05 OHL player by double digits.

I get that Barlow trade request, that OS team is going to be very bad this season outside of Smith/George. I don't get the Musty one as Sudbury isn't bad and he can play with Villenueve/Walton who are both good and have pieces like McCoy/DeAngelis on D who are also both legit.