Streaming this season?

[HogTown06]

You live outside the Leafs region, like me.

If you buy SN Now Premium, you will get all the National games broadcast by SportsNet on Monday, Wednesday and Saturday nights. You will also get any regional games broadcast by SNO or TSN4 on Tuesday, Thursday, Friday and Sunday.

Since SN Now Premium is replacing NHLtv, and you do NOT live in the Leafs region you would get 100% of the Leafs games. I cannot think of a game you would miss out on.

If you do not want to spend that kind of money, you can go black market. I tried a paid IPTV service last year, and it was hit and miss. Most of these pirated streams came from the non-Leafs region, so even when I flicked on TSN4 or SNO for the regional nights, it was often blacked out. The IPTV providers tried to find available streams but it was definitly not a service worth paying for imo and many times I ended up watching the visiting feeds for full or portions of games and sometimes I even had to go with an alternate stream. I can think of '66' reasons to go that avoid IPTV if you need is specifically Leafs games.

In the end, if you pay for SN Now Premium, you'll get what you want, at a cost.

For those in the Leafs region, it is a different story. You will need access to both SportsNet and TSN4 in order to catch all the regional games.

Wow, thanks for the comprehensive response! This is actually 10 times better than I got from the SN contact centre.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

I'd rather have Sportsnet than ESPN+. Can't even watch all the Leafs games on there and it's the only streaming service available in the US for hockey. Prior to last year I had NHL TV which was just awesome. Simple, clean, it was like having center ice on an app. Of course they decide to get rid of that for US viewers. Now I'm stuck with this crap.

 

[andora]

Again if you look around you can get all leaf games .. including options to listen to the leafs broadcast team for away games

 

[Nineteen67]

Not for streaming I don’t think, but available for cable/ satellite.

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Yes. I have Center ice and MLB . That’s the easiest wat to watch, either on the tv or stream. And I doubt I pay more than 300 for both.

 

[Nineteen67]

I'd rather have Sportsnet than ESPN+. Can't even watch all the Leafs games on there and it's the only streaming service available in the US for hockey. Prior to last year I had NHL TV which was just awesome. Simple, clean, it was like having center ice on an app. Of course they decide to get rid of that for US viewers. Now I'm stuck with this crap.

Why can’t you get the Leafs games? I thought they streamed all games unless it’s a on TNT.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Why can’t you get the Leafs games? I thought they streamed all games unless it’s a on TNT.

Not sure but I definitely didn’t get every Leafs game.

 

[Griffin76]

That is why you get NHL Centre Ice and I get to see every single preseason, regular season game for us out-of-towners.

I have it too. Only game I don't get to watch is the preseason Leafs at Habs on TSN. Being in NS, Montreal and Ottawa are considered our region. That one game every year is only available on RDS in this area. Other than that I get every NHL game out there. I'll usually watch 60+ games of Arizona, 20+ of Edmonton, Colorado and Pittsburgh. So it's definitely worth the $230.

 

[Notsince67]

I have it too. Only game I don't get to watch is the preseason Leafs at Habs on TSN. Being in NS, Montreal and Ottawa are considered our region. That one game every year is only available on RDS in this area. Other than that I get every NHL game out there. I'll usually watch 60+ games of Arizona, 20+ of Edmonton, Colorado and Pittsburgh. So it's definitely worth the $230.

I've tried every solution but the grey market is the only one that suits me. For the record, I get pretty well every televised sporting event (in HD if available) in the world including PPV for about 13 bucks a month. Hard to believe, but I have over 9000 tv channels in total. I won't reveal the source because I believe it breaks forum rules but I can assure you this option exists.

edit. and I still pay for cable although I don't use it so as not to steal from my favorite teams

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Is there a Disney/ESPN/Hulu bundle available in Canada ? Can one see all the Leafs games plus all the other entertainment?

 

[therealkoho]

Such a pain in the ass. It's almost as though they are trying to turn fans away.

Best of luck, I'm sure an internet search will provide you with options. Android boxes may be another solution.

Jus a little background1 Blackouts were first introduced so that teams would conceivably not lose any walk up business, then it was because newer teams were trying to build fanbases and so if there was a home game the nearest rivals would be blacked out ie Leafs/Senators. I could see what they were getting at but I always thought it was clumsy on the NHL's part.

I had NHL live during the covid thing and Leafs games were still blacked out where I live. I got in touch with the customer service and asked them why that should be since the Senators weren't losing any possible ticket business seeing as there weren't any tickets available?

So now I just look for streams and use GEM when more convenient.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Jus a little background1 Blackouts were first introduced so that teams would conceivably not lose any walk up business, then it was because newer teams were trying to build fanbases and so if there was a home game the nearest rivals would be blacked out ie Leafs/Senators. I could see what they were getting at but I always thought it was clumsy on the NHL's part.

I had NHL live during the covid thing and Leafs games were still blacked out where I live. I got in touch with the customer service and asked them why that should be since the Senators weren't losing any possible ticket business seeing as there weren't any tickets available?

So now I just look for streams and use GEM when more convenient.

I assume because regional TSN pays about 40 (CDN I assume) million for rights, so they can’t make it a National broadcast.

 

[justashadowof]

Has SN Now improved? It was unsatisfactory before. My biggest beefs were buffering when I have rock solid internet connection and the game stream cutting off the end of the game because I had paused the game a few times during the 3rd period.

 

[Griffin76]

I've tried every solution but the grey market is the only one that suits me. For the record, I get pretty well every televised sporting event (in HD if available) in the world including PPV for about 13 bucks a month. Hard to believe, but I have over 9000 tv channels in total. I won't reveal the source because I believe it breaks forum rules but I can assure you this option exists.

edit. and I still pay for cable although I don't use it so as not to steal from my favorite teams

I have the grey market system as well. I have no problems watching anything but every once in a while during a Jays game it buffers. Have to exit the app completely and go back in. Of course it happens during an exciting part and I miss it. So sports I still watch on my satellite just in case. Don't want to chance missing something because of buffering.

 

[Terrible GM]

You live outside the Leafs region, like me.

You will also get any regional games broadcast by SNO or TSN4 on Tuesday, Thursday, Friday and Sunday.

Since SN Now Premium is replacing NHLtv, and you do NOT live in the Leafs region you would get 100% of the Leafs games. I cannot think of a game you would miss out on.

I do not think that's correct at all. Blackouts are still going to happen on regional games.

It says on Sportsnet " 56 to 82 games (for Leafs, Oilers, Flames, Canucks) depending on Region" for BOTH standard and premium. The phrasing is careful in some places but I would be shocked if they actually lifted blackouts for regional games for those in other regions. Saying 1000+ games for Premium is like saying we do not do all of the 1312 games in the regular season.

We've gone through CenterIce, NHL TV, Rogers Gamecenter, and now SNNow. None have been blackout free, and all feedback my way said the blackouts are driven by the NHL and teams in your area. Was some type of agreement made with NHL teams. I would think it would be big news.

There are Virtually dozens of ways for People to Negate the blackouts..

OP... if you need a couple suggestions on ways around the blackouts, I have been doing it for years in various methods. PM me if you want to know them...

 

[Golden_Jet]

I do not think that's correct at all. Blackouts are still going to happen on regional games.

It says on Sportsnet " 56 to 82 games (for Leafs, Oilers, Flames, Canucks) depending on Region" for BOTH standard and premium. The phrasing is careful in some places but I would be shocked if they actually lifted blackouts for regional games for those in other regions. Saying 1000+ games for Premium is like saying we do not do all of the 1312 games in the regular season.

We've gone through CenterIce, NHL TV, Rogers Gamecenter, and now SNNow. None have been blackout free, and all feedback my way said the blackouts are driven by the NHL and teams in your area. Was some type of agreement made with NHL teams. I would think it would be big news.

There are some Virtually dozens of ways for People to Negate the blackouts..

OP... if you need a couple suggestions on ways around the blackouts, I have been doing it for years in various methods. PM me if you want to know them...

I can only speak of Centre Ice for 20 plus years, as I’ve had that.
They televise every game, I was able to get every other teams regional games, except for regional games in my area, we’re blacked out.

 

[diehardleafsfan9878]

Problem is blackouts. Some TV over ip services give you every game. Might be black marketish but Rogers started out as a pirate of US broadcasts. I'll admit I don't know the laws in full but I believe it isn't illegal to receive streams. Transmitting them is a different thing. I've seen some packages that looks like they have every sporting event in the world.

In Canada, if you are receiving streams there is no illegal aspect of it. If you are the one providing the streams, the only legal ramifications involved are the ones brought forth by the copywrite holders. So in this case the NHL and teams. If you are providing streams, you can be sued for copywrite infringement, but most don't get pursued as it would likely cost more to bring about a lawsuit than what they would get out of the lawsuit.

 

[Golden_Jet]

In Canada, if you are receiving streams there is no illegal aspect of it. If you are the one providing the streams, the only legal ramifications involved are the ones brought forth by the copywrite holders. So in this case the NHL and teams. If you are providing streams, you can be sued for copywrite infringement, but most don't get pursued as it would likely cost more to bring about a lawsuit than what they would get out of the lawsuit.

Slight correction, that’s called grey market, for the receiving end.
Stealing streams, hurts HRR and the cap.

 

[wingman75]

I do not think that's correct at all. Blackouts are still going to happen on regional games.

It says on Sportsnet " 56 to 82 games (for Leafs, Oilers, Flames, Canucks) depending on Region" for BOTH standard and premium. The phrasing is careful in some places but I would be shocked if they actually lifted blackouts for regional games for those in other regions. Saying 1000+ games for Premium is like saying we do not do all of the 1312 games in the regular season.

We've gone through CenterIce, NHL TV, Rogers Gamecenter, and now SNNow. None have been blackout free, and all feedback my way said the blackouts are driven by the NHL and teams in your area. Was some type of agreement made with NHL teams. I would think it would be big news.

There are some Virtually dozens of ways for People to Negate the blackouts..

OP... if you need a couple suggestions on ways around the blackouts, I have been doing it for years in various methods. PM me if you want to know them...

For someone who lives outside the Leafs region, what I said is 100% true.

SN Now Premium gets you NHL live, which shows ALL the out of market games for the subscriber. For us non-Leaf regioners, that means the regional Leafs games on SNO and TSN are included. Additionally, SN Now Premium also includes the national games on SN and CBC. That will give you 82 Leafs games. Comes at a cost though.

 

[therealkoho]

Slight correction, that’s called grey market, for the receiving end.
Stealing streams, hurts HRR and the cap.

Oh dang how didn't I know that, them poor millionaire and billionaires, do you happen to know where I can send the cheque?

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

If you live in the maritimes you don’t get every Leafs games.

I don't know if you have Bell and maybe it doesn't matter but the last time I was in Nova Scotia and the Leafs game was blacked out I found some obscure French channel (not the normal ones like RTS or whatever), some name I never heard of that was playing the game way up in the upper channels. It was awesome. Those small victories in life fix everything.

 

[Da Cool Rula]

In Canada, if you are receiving streams there is no illegal aspect of it. If you are the one providing the streams, the only legal ramifications involved are the ones brought forth by the copywrite holders. So in this case the NHL and teams. If you are providing streams, you can be sued for copywrite infringement, but most don't get pursued as it would likely cost more to bring about a lawsuit than what they would get out of the lawsuit.

Does this apply to movies too?

Also could I get a link(s) to confirm all this. Just doing my due diligence.

 

[Nineteen67]

I don't know if you have Bell and maybe it doesn't matter but the last time I was in Nova Scotia and the Leafs game was blacked out I found some obscure French channel (not the normal ones like RTS or whatever), some name I never heard of that was playing the game way up in the upper channels. It was awesome. Those small victories in life fix everything.

I live in the US and the only restriction I have is I have to watch Preds‘ games on Bally sports.

 

[Optimist]

I've tried every solution but the grey market is the only one that suits me. For the record, I get pretty well every televised sporting event (in HD if available) in the world including PPV for about 13 bucks a month. Hard to believe, but I have over 9000 tv channels in total. I won't reveal the source because I believe it breaks forum rules but I can assure you this option exists.

edit. and I still pay for cable although I don't use it so as not to steal from my favorite teams

I get all of that too. For free.

 

[diehardleafsfan9878]

Does this apply to movies too?

Also could I get a link(s) to confirm all this. Just doing my due diligence.

It does apply to movies and tv shows. And there is no statute of law to confirm this. There is nothing saying it is legal, but nothing saying it is not illegal, so I can't really provide a link to confirm this

 

[notdoneyet]

I live in new brunswick. Had center ice and leaf games were blacked out.
Switched to cable and got full tsn and SN package and if the leafs games are in SNO
They are blacked out. Even though i pay full price.
If leafs games are on TSN4 or TSN 5 they are blacked out even though i pay for full TSN package

I miss many leafs games because of this even though I pay.

I have to rely on illegal streams even though i pay close to 200 dollars a month