Injury Report: Stolarz Stretchered Out Of SBA During Game 1

[seventieslord]

Woll was pretty bad coming in cold in game one, he was decent in game two and he was horrible last game.

Imagine what it would have been like for Montreal and Colorado fans in the days of Patrick Roy if we had HFboards. After every loss, or every game that he lets in three or more goals, it would be RIP, he's trash, series over, we'll never win with him, etc. How stupid would that be to look back on 20 to 30 years later?

It's not like that never happened. He did lose a bunch of games and he did allow three or more many times.

The difference between an excellent goalie and a poor goalie long-term is really just a couple percent.

Woll is an above average NHL goalie. Every single goalie, no matter who they are, is going to have shutouts, excellent games, good games, average games, bad games, and poor games. Woll being a slightly above average goalie means he's probably going to have excellent and good games slightly more often than most goalies, and bad and poor games slightly less often than most goalies. It doesn't mean he's never going to have them, ever. We hope and wish for perfection, but we're not going to get that. We wouldn't even get that if our goaltender was Patrick Roy in his prime.

Certainly there's a seed of doubt right now, but out of the eight remaining teams I don't think there's one who's got a better chance with their backup goalie than we do.

 

[Brown Dog]

Wasn't an encouraging performance from Woll and gives pause to the narrative that he was primarily shaky in Game 1 because he was coming in in relief.

But tomorrow is a new day and Woll has it in him to be excellent. Here's hoping.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Both tenders have been weak this series .. Bobbo has been worse .. 4 of goals last night were complete and total fluke's

I'm not a Panthers fan though so I don't care if Bob's been weak.

In fact that's a good thing.

 

[authentic]

A healthy Panthers team has Bennett, Marchand and Tkachuk. That's a living monument to playoff rats. I kind of admire that, winning is everything, bend every rule in the book, stop at nothing.

Playing with an edge is one thing but I can’t admire intent to injure, especially when it’s to the head and not penalized.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Get a grip.

I'm amazed at how many people want to shit all over Woll today. I guess you guys missed game 2, or you've forgotten already how he was our best player in that one. Woll wasn't great last night, but he wasn't terrible either and he wasn't any worse than the 10 million dollar goalie at the other end.

It was weird game, haven't seen one this entire season with so many fluky goals at both ends. Woll had no chance on most of them, they got the last lucky bounce and that was the difference.

11 goals against In about 2.5 games because he only played about half the first game.

I don't care if Bob's been awful I'm not a Panthers fan so that's irrelevant.

Fact is Woll has allowed 11 goals against In about 2.5, Yes he made a couple big saves in game 2.

But Overall he's been awful.

 

[authentic]

Wasn't an encouraging performance from Woll and gives pause to the narrative that he was primarily shaky in Game 1 because he was coming in in relief.

But tomorrow is a new day and Woll has it in him to be excellent. Here's hoping.

I expect he’ll be better, but still two wins and one OT loss with him in net, can’t complain.

Someone also posted how Stolarz has an .878 save percentage since game 3 so really we’ve done quite well either way not having to rely on goaltending.

 

[Gary Nylund]

11 goals against In about 2.5 games because he only played about half the first game.
I don't care if Bob's been awful I'm not a Panthers fan so that's irrelevant.
Fact is Woll has allowed 11 goals against In about 2.5, Yes he made a couple big saves in game 2.
But Overall he's been awful.

Game 2 was an all-star level performance.

 

[notbias]

FYI, the league average sv% in this year's playoffs is currently .897, a sample of 3,200+ shots that includes mostly shots faced by starter caliber goaltenders for average to excellent teams.

that is still not good... just because other goalies are playing bad doesn't mean Stolarz should be praised for it.

Both goalies can play better and likely will.

 

[fahad203]

11 goals against In about 2.5 games because he only played about half the first game.

I don't care if Bob's been awful I'm not a Panthers fan so that's irrelevant.

Fact is Woll has allowed 11 goals against In about 2.5, Yes he made a couple big saves in game 2.

But Overall he's been awful.

It's not just giving up the goals. The type of goals
That Noesen goal was back breaker

 

[shaner8989]

Confirmed out for series. Has not skated at all

Curse lives on

f***

 

[seventieslord]

that is still not good... just because other goalies are playing bad doesn't mean Stolarz should be praised for it.

Both goalies can play better and likely will.

Who says it means that goalies around the league are playing badly? Scoring environments gradually change over time. A number that looks great one year might only be average in another.

 

[AuraSphere]

Confirmed out for series. Has not skated at all

Curse lives on

f***

Chill tf out - Bob has been awful for Florida - enough with discrediting Woll lol. He's had 1 bad game.

 

[mapleleaf979]

I think Stolarz will return for Game 5 in Toronto on Wednesday. Thats 9 days after the initial injury.

 

[saffronleaf]

Wonder if he's Shaky due to ptsd from gudas towering over him and yelling at him

 

[thewave]

I think Stolarz will return for Game 5 in Toronto on Wednesday. Thats 9 days after the initial injury.

He isn't even skating. The league let our starting goalie legit get taken out with absolutely no suspension or anything

 

[notbias]

Who says it means that goalies around the league are playing badly? Scoring environments gradually change over time. A number that looks great one year might only be average in another.

Did it change since the regular season ended or did all the good goalies not make the playoffs?

Playoffs are now suddenly not tight-checking? Did this board lie to me?

Stolarz dropped by almost .030 since the regular season ended.

"Scoring environments gradually change over time."

gradually change over time = change immediately?

 

[CabanaBoy5]

Game 2 was an all-star level performance.

Have we lowered our standards that much? He had a 3.00 GAA and .893 SV%. He made one spectacular save and now we think that was all-star performance?

 

[Gary Nylund]

Have we lowered our standards that much? He had a 3.00 GAA and .893 SV%. He made one spectacular save and now we think that was all-star performance?

Florida out-chanced us by a wide margin and Woll made a lot of tough saves.

 

[ThrowDemTongs]

Wonder if he's Shaky due to ptsd from gudas towering over him and yelling at him

I've been waiting for you to make this comment all year lmao

 

[OddyOh]

Wonder if he's Shaky due to ptsd from gudas towering over him and yelling at him

Hell that photo still triggers me!

 

[hoglund]

I think Stolarz will return for Game 5 in Toronto on Wednesday. Thats 9 days after the initial injury.

I think that would be too soon after a head injury, my guess would be at least 2 weeks, probably more, but I hope that you're right.

 

[Stephen]

Playing with an edge is one thing but I can’t admire intent to injure, especially when it’s to the head and not penalized.

For Game 5 the Toronto crowd needs to keep raining down the wrath on Sam Bennett specifically like he's public enemy numbre one. Game 2 he seemed a little shaken up by the focus on his antics and that shouldn't be forgotten. He's a Toronto guy, but make him really uncomfortable in that rink. Make him think twice about doing any extracurricular scumbag things.

 

[Stephen]

He isn't even skating. The league let our starting goalie legit get taken out with absolutely no suspension or anything

I hope Stolarz can come back and close out the series, while feeding Bennett with Ridly Greig menu.

 

[seventieslord]

Did it change since the regular season ended or did all the good goalies not make the playoffs?

Playoffs are now suddenly not tight-checking? Did this board lie to me?

Stolarz dropped by almost .030 since the regular season ended.

"Scoring environments gradually change over time."

gradually change over time = change immediately?

Maybe this happened without you realizing, maybe not, but the NHL's average save percentage has seen an 18-point swing from the .911 it was just 10 seasons ago. This season was .893. The average of the 16 playoff teams was .899.

There's no easy way to predict what will happen to the league average in the playoffs. Sure, better goalies made it, but so did better skaters who will take better shots. Which overrides which? Look at the Leafs. 29.3 shots against in the regular season per game. 24.5 per 60 in the playoffs: a substantial drop. It stands to reason that the Leafs have made it so that it takes considerably more effort a strategy to even achieve a legit shot on goal in the past few weeks, so the ones that do get through are going to be more dangerous. And you can't expect a guy who was .926 against the field, to maintain that average against better than average teams.

We've gotten perfectly adequate goaltending from Stolarz.

 

[notbias]

Maybe this happened without you realizing, maybe not, but the NHL's average save percentage has seen an 18-point swing from the .911 it was just 10 seasons ago. This season was .893. The average of the 16 playoff teams was .899.

There's no easy way to predict what will happen to the league average in the playoffs. Sure, better goalies made it, but so did better skaters who will take better shots. Which overrides which? Look at the Leafs. 29.3 shots against in the regular season per game. 24.5 per 60 in the playoffs: a substantial drop. It stands to reason that the Leafs have made it so that it takes considerably more effort a strategy to even achieve a legit shot on goal in the past few weeks, so the ones that do get through are going to be more dangerous. And you can't expect a guy who was .926 against the field, to maintain that average against better than average teams.

We've gotten perfectly adequate goaltending from Stolarz.

Adequate was not how he was in the regular season, so again, I am asking, why is there such a big swing in his play? He was the top goaltender in the regular season, he is not that currently in the playoffs.

Nothing you mentioned would make me believe that he should have dropped off this much.