GDT: Stickpuck Gaem #??

[zman77]

 

[cptjeff]

I mean sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make

That said, I don't think anyone had Necas turning into an Uberelite player on their bingo card this year.

Yeah, even his biggest boosters weren't expecting this. Or at least they weren't saying that they expected it in public.

 

[3CanesInTheBox]

I gotta eat some crow. I knew Necas had the talent but I didn’t think he had the extra gear. I am happy to be wrong.

can't imagine many people saw THIS happening. I did think his potential was being wasted on ridiculous /wonky lines last year, but wow.

 

[CandyCanes]

Idc who you are. No one saw this coming. Necas playing outstanding, the new guys are big contributors. Freddy hurt again, oh wait everyone saw that one coming... chemistry is there and PK taking the reins..... like i had hoped.. team needed changes... its helped a ton!!!

Always thought Necas could be a point per game level of player, in another system. But I absolutely did not have him as a guy that’d push for 100+ points in a Canes uniform.

I think a lot of people forgot that Orlov is a really good defender. Legit Top 4 without question. The team had a net loss of one, not two.

#7 is tied for #1 in +/- leaguewide, btw.

Absolutely. Also give credit where it’s due. Chatfield has been great too. He’s such a fun player to watch, he really uses his speed to his advantage.

 

[CanesUltimate11]

Is it time to try Nachos at 2C?

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

 

[Borsig]

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

I agree 110%.

But doesnt he want to play C? Wasnt that why he wanted a trade?

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I agree 110%.

But doesnt he want to play C? Wasnt that why he wanted a trade?

I have a feeling he’s pretty happy right now lol

 

[The Jerk Store]

I've thought all along he had PPG potential and *maybe* a 100 pt season in a really good year when the stars align, but I figured it would require a change of scenery to do so.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

I would guess that Necas’ unhappiness was about the PP primarily. He went from Unit 1 to Unit 2 through no fault of his own. (No fault of the coach either; it was the #2 PP in the league without him on Unit 1.) His PPPs were cut in half and that impacted his earning power this Summer.

I saw low key growth from him last season. He carried around Drury and Bunting for several months pre-deadline. Undisputed best player on his line, unlike his other best stretches of March ‘21 (w/Aho) and October ‘22 (w/Svechnikov). What he’s doing now is that on steroids.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I know they’re due to regress etc. But as things stand right now, it really feels like Rod and the front office have broken the game. This team’s playing without Jarvis, without Andersen, having lost a ****load of talent over the summer and replaced them with guys who were expandable on bad teams. And somehow they’re just running opponents into the ground night after night.

The Jack Adams usually goes to the coach of the most improved team, but how does Rod not win it if this continues? He’s getting 100% out of the talent they’ve given him to work with. Not 95%, not 99%. Even solving the issues with Necas, making the center depth issue a non factor, making it so goalie injuries don’t hurt. It’s probably too much to hope that this continues all season, but damn, if this isn’t an illusion then it’s some kind of miracle.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I know they’re due to regress etc. But as things stand right now, it really feels like Rod and the front office have broken the game. This team’s playing without Jarvis, without Andersen, having lost a ****load of talent over the summer and replaced them with guys who were expandable on bad teams. And somehow they’re just running opponents into the ground night after night.

The Jack Adams usually goes to the coach of the most improved team, but how does Rod not win it if this continues? He’s getting 100% out of the talent they’ve given him to work with. Not 95%, not 99%. Even solving the issues with Necas, making the center depth issue a non factor, making it so goalie injuries don’t hurt. It’s probably too much to hope that this continues all season, but damn, if this isn’t an illusion then it’s some kind of miracle.

The additions were great fits, to start off. Roslovic and Robinson are both fantastic skaters and can defend off of the puck. One thing that's also really impressed me is how balanced the ice time has been on our defense. Part of me wondered if Slavin was going to be leaned on more heavily for ice-time shares with Skjei-Pesce swapped for Ghost-Walker, but it really hasn't been the case. Last year, Slavin only averaged 20:56 a night in the regular season (an utter pittance for a top-pairing D), and this year he's averaged 21:18 a night, a whopping 22 seconds a game more. The evenly-balanced 4-6 attack of Chatfield/Ghost/Walker has made it so that Rod still isn't overly dependent on Slavin or Burns to eat heavy minutes.

One other thing I must say: most of the analytical data coming in, especially when it comes to even-strength expected goals for AND against, corroborates with their record. They're legitimately as good as they look. Sure, some guys like Necas have had a ton of puck luck to start the year, but guys like Svech and Aho have had the complete opposite, which balances things out.

 

[geehaad]

I've almost commented on this a number of times (probably shouldn't now, too!), but the biggest surprise to me of all of this isn't Nachos (re?)emergence, not that the defense has been just as good as last year's, nor that the Canes are winning so many games...it's that they've scored goals at a near-historic rate (for the franchise). They've been kept under 4 goals in a game only 4 times in 15 games...no one would've predicted that about any of these Canes teams of in recent memory.

BTW, after singing the praises of ChatGPT because it solved a work problem that had perplexed me for weeks, it has been brought back to earth via this exchange:

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I know it's a losing battle, but don't use AI.

Even putting aside the environmental toll of chip manufacturing and supply chains, the training process for a single AI model, such as a large language model, can consume thousands of megawatt hours of electricity and emit hundreds of tons of carbon. This is roughly equivalent to the annual carbon emissions of hundreds of households in America. Furthermore, AI model training can lead to the evaporation of an astonishing amount of fresh water into the atmosphere for data center heat rejection, potentially exacerbating stress on our already limited freshwater resources.

The Uneven Distribution of AI’s Environmental Impacts

The training process for a single AI model, such as an LLM, can consume thousands of megawatt hours of electricity and emit hundreds of tons of carbon. AI model training can also lead to the evaporation of an astonishing amount of freshwater into the atmosphere for data center heat rejection...

hbr.org

And yes, I realize the irony of saying this with my avatar.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I know it's a losing battle, but don't use AI.

You could say that about any major innovation, ever so not sure why people are focused on AI. Automobiles, semi-conductors, electricity generation, farming, e-commerce, distribution, computing power / cell phones / electronics, Bitcoin mining, air travel, etc. To me it's about companies and governments needing to drive innovation to create electricity in a manner so it minimizes the impact.

I worked in the semi-conductor industry for many years. A large semi-conductor FAB can use as much electricity in 1 hour that 50,000 homes would use in 1 year. With or without AI, the demand for Semi-conductors will continue to expand.

If the logic is to not use AI, then we shouldn't use anything with Semi-conductors either so our phone, computer, TV and not play computer games, etc...

 

[Blueline Bomber]

You could say that about any major innovation, ever so not sure why people are focused on AI. Automobiles, semi-conductors, electricity generation, farming, e-commerce, distribution, computing power / cell phones / electronics, Bitcoin mining, air travel, etc. To me it's about companies and governments needing to drive innovation to create electricity in a manner so it minimizes the impact.

I worked in the semi-conductor industry for many years. A large semi-conductor FAB can use as much electricity in 1 hour that 50,000 homes would use in 1 year. With or without AI, the demand for Semi-conductors will continue to expand.

If the logic is to not use AI, then we shouldn't use anything with Semi-conductors either so our phone, computer, TV and not play computer games, etc...

Well, AI is targeted for a few reasons. Aside from the environmental impact (which you correctly pointed out could apply to many things, though I'd argue humanity has ALSO been trying to fight against the negative environmental impact of those things as well), there's also the frivolous use of AI.

I don't pretend to know much about semi-conductors, but I imagine it's not an easily accessible thing to acquire, use, etc. Meanwhile, we have AI being used for EVERYTHING, even when we don't want or need it. Even finding that article, I had to scroll past Google's Gemini answer to my Google search.

Coca-Cola's Christmas commercial this year is AI-generated. Why? I assume they didn't want to pay the animators they used for the past 50+ years. ChatGPT has become such a plague in education that teachers spend more time checking papers against Chat than actually grading the substance of the paper. And that's not counting the frivolous use of it.

Look at this (ignore the context):



Is it THAT hard to use an actual picture of a cruise ship and not AI-generate one?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Well, AI is targeted for a few reasons. Aside from the environmental impact (which you correctly pointed out could apply to many things, though I'd argue humanity has ALSO been trying to fight against the negative environmental impact of those things as well), there's also the frivolous use of AI.

I don't pretend to know much about semi-conductors, but I imagine it's not an easily accessible thing to acquire, use, etc.

Right now, it's way more pervasive than AI and always will be, since AI can't occur without semi-conductors.

Meanwhile, we have AI being used for EVERYTHING, even when we don't want or need it. Even finding that article, I had to scroll past Google's Gemini answer to my Google search.

Semi-conductors are used for EVERYTHING, even when you don't want or need it, but that's the thing, everybody WANTS and NEEDS them. LED lights, coffee pots, phones, computers, watches, furnaces, AC units, cars, washing machines, dryers, etc..etc.. It's not only an easily accessible thing, everybody already uses them 100s of times every single day and that will continue to grow.

I use AI to help evaluate contracts, write business letters, clean up an email when important, etc.. I know those that use it for resumes. Medical professionals are using it more and more. There are LOTS of non-frivolous things.

Coca-Cola's Christmas commercial this year is AI-generated. Why? I assume they didn't want to pay the animators they used for the past 50+ years.

I mean take it a step further. Why did Coca-cola get rid of the people who hand drew illustrations? Why did the start using the computer in the first place? Why did Ford invent the assembly line? Why did Eli Whitney invent the Cotton Gin? Why did automakers and assembly companies use robots for assembly? Why did farmers use automatic milking machines? etc... People and companies always have and always will look for efficiency and drive innovation in doing so. Companies that fail to innovate get left behind and eventually fail.

ChatGPT has become such a plague in education that teachers spend more time checking papers against Chat than actually grading the substance of the paper.

Meh. When I was a kid people used cliffsnotes, used reports from older siblings or paid kids to write reports for them. Then when the internet came about kids had immense access to information and ready made reports. Some students will always find a way.

And that's not counting the frivolous use of it.

Look at this (ignore the context):



Is it THAT hard to use an actual picture of a cruise ship and not AI-generate one?

Why does it matter? It's a joke tweet. Maybe they didn't the owner of an actual cruise ship (Carnival, Royal Caribbean) telling them to delete the tweet if they used one of their ships? People have been modifying images online with photoshop for years.

I realize that AI has a potential to be abused so I'm not dismissing that completely, just saying it's much more complex than "frivolous use that uses energy".

 

[Identity404]

I've almost commented on this a number of times (probably shouldn't now, too!), but the biggest surprise to me of all of this isn't Nachos (re?)emergence, not that the defense has been just as good as last year's, nor that the Canes are winning so many games...it's that they've scored goals at a near-historic rate (for the franchise). They've been kept under 4 goals in a game only 4 times in 15 games...no one would've predicted that about any of these Canes teams of in recent memory.

BTW, after singing the praises of ChatGPT because it solved a work problem that had perplexed me for weeks, it has been brought back to earth via this exchange:

Scoring is always higher at the beginning of the season. I’d like to see historical goals per game broken down between Oct-Dec and Jan-April.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I'm not discounting the positive uses of AI. To my understanding, it's helped the sciences and medical fields greatly. I'm worried about the slippery slope it can lead to.

You mentioned you use AI to help clean up your email when it's important. Why not use it to generate an email entirely? It's more efficient, after all. Same deal with resumes. It's what students are doing with their papers and tests as well. They're not learning anything, but hey, as long as they have an AI on hand, it doesn't matter if they actually know anything, right?

We're already seeing it in the artistic/animation field. Why work on learning to draw or animate something when AI can generate it for you? Why learn those skills if companies are going to use AI anyway?

 

[geehaad]

I’d like to see historical goals per game broken down between Oct-Dec and Jan-April.

You should use ChatGPT to get that information.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I'm not discounting the positive uses of AI. To my understanding, it's helped the sciences and medical fields greatly. I'm worried about the slippery slope it can lead to.

You mentioned you use AI to help clean up your email when it's important. Why not use it to generate an email entirely? It's more efficient, after all.

I actually have used it to write the email or message for more simple ones. For more complex ones, I've found it more efficient to quickly write a draft and tell AI to refine it in the way I want.

Same deal with resumes. It's what students are doing with their papers and tests as well. They're not learning anything, but hey, as long as they have an AI on hand, it doesn't matter if they actually know anything, right?

Oh come on. Nobody said it doesn't matter if they learn anything. Why were students ever allowed Calculators then? Or computers/laptops? Or use the internet? etc. Like I said, students that wanted to get around it could always find a way in the past, but learning changes and adapts when technology changes, just like it has with calculators, the internet and computers.

We're already seeing it in the artistic/animation field. Why work on learning to draw or animate something when AI can generate it for you? Why learn those skills if companies are going to use AI anyway?

You've BEEN seeing it in the animation field for a 50+ years. Go look at a cartoon from the 60s or 70s and see how they made it? Took way more time and people. Even go back to how they did the original Star Wars. CGI has made it way easier and with less people. This is a continual evolution.

The same applies to many fields over the past 200 years. Why learn how to be a farrier when people are moving to automobiles? Why learn to be a newspaper reporter when newspapers are going away? Why learn to be a switchboard operator when technology is making it obsolete? Why learn how to run printing press when a company can hire some kid on a computer to do the same?

Technology advances and it changes the workforce and which jobs are in demand. Always has, always will.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Why we got a bunch of mofos in here talking about AI when we could be talking about the glory of Martin Necas. This is why we can't have nice things, don'tcha know.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Why we got a bunch of mofos in here talking about AI when we could be talking about the glory of Martin Necas. This is why we can't have nice things, don'tcha know.

Martin Necas IS AI

 

[LakeLivin]

Why we got a bunch of mofos in here talking about AI when we could be talking about the glory of Martin Necas barbecue. This is why we can't have nice things, don'tcha know.

Fixed that for ya.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Fixed that for ya.

Martin Necas IS barbecue.
- @Boom Boom Apathy
-A Star is Burns