GDT: Stickpuck Gaem #??

[Finlandia WOAT]

Watching the Stutzle penalty, he not only knocked the stick out of Svech's hands, he then knocked it away. Really dumb penalty to take.

 

[Stickpucker]

Watching the Stutzle penalty, he not only knocked the stick out of Svech's hands, he then knocked it away. Really dumb penalty to take.

Svechian decision making there.

 

[bleedgreen]

That was a brutal call on Stutzle. That’s standard stick jousting that happens all over the ice. That and the slash on Pinto would’ve had me throwing things at the tv going against us.

 

[Ole Gil]

He really wasn’t in position to break up the pass. He was well behind Stutzle. That’s why he held his stick like that, basically trying to extend his “wingspan” as much as possible. And when he did that, his grip on the stick was extremely loose, to the point where it was bouncing around in his glove before Stutzle even touched it. That’s a call you’re going to get 1 out of 1000 times. We got lucky it was called this time.

The fact Svech was so far behind Stutzle is probably what did Stutzle in. If Svech's was in the play, it'd have been a stick battle getting position going to the net, which isn't a penalty. But this was just Stutzle reaching way back to take a swat at svech's stick. There was no other motivation, which I think is the key to the rule.

 

[bleedgreen]

The fact Svech was so far behind Stutzle is probably what did Stutzle in. If Svech's was in the play, it'd have been a stick battle getting position going to the net, which isn't a penalty. But this was just Stutzle reaching way back to take a swat at svech's stick. There was no other motivation, which I think is the key to the rule.

Swatting someone’s stick in any situation or distance isn’t a penalty. It was a penalty because Svech was reaching with one hand on his stick and a weak grip on it. I’m fine with a lot of the rule changes over the years but this one is pretty crap - calling any dropped stick without context is nonsensical. Especially here since it was hardly Stutzle’s intent to knock the stick out of his hand. Hold onto your stick. This wasn’t a hard chop, it was a sideways swipe for maintaining positioning. My social media feeds me hockey training videos all day and there was one this week where the coach was teaching teenagers about stick battles/positioning and was teaching them to smack sticks hard to knock them out of the way. He even was advocating double hits besides everyone knows the first one is coming. This is standard and commonplace. Marchand is applauded for his work on this goal.



If the call last night makes sense then Marchand deserved two, arguably three calls on that play. Letang held onto his stick so it’s no call….if that’s the real rule then that rule is crap. We want baseball and lumberjack swings out. Not these plays. The rule shouldn’t be “but the defender lost his stick so it’s a penalty no matter what.”

 

[Ole Gil]

Swatting someone’s stick in any situation or distance isn’t a penalty. It was a penalty because Svech was reaching with one hand on his stick and a weak grip on it. I’m fine with a lot of the rule changes over the years but this one is pretty crap - calling any dropped stick without context is nonsensical. Especially here since it was hardly Stutzle’s intent to knock the stick out of his hand. Hold onto your stick. This wasn’t a hard chop, it was a sideways swipe for maintaining positioning. My social media feeds me hockey training videos all day and there was one this week where the coach was teaching teenagers about stick battles/positioning and was teaching them to smack sticks hard to knock them out of the way. He even was advocating double hits besides everyone knows the first one is coming. This is standard and commonplace. Marchand is applauded for his work on this goal.



If the call last night makes sense then Marchand deserved two, arguably three calls on that play. Letang held onto his stick so it’s no call….if that’s the real rule then that rule is crap. We want baseball and lumberjack swings out. Not these plays. The rule shouldn’t be “but the defender lost his stick so it’s a penalty no matter what.”

There was no puck there. They weren't battling for position. Stutzle reached back, and took a swipe at Svech's stick.

That's interference. It was blatant.

I can not speak to social media hockey training videos. I only get the social media basketball training videos that tell me I should be taking 3-5 steps after I pick up my dribble.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Swatting someone’s stick in any situation or distance isn’t a penalty. It was a penalty because Svech was reaching with one hand on his stick and a weak grip on it. I’m fine with a lot of the rule changes over the years but this one is pretty crap - calling any dropped stick without context is nonsensical. Especially here since it was hardly Stutzle’s intent to knock the stick out of his hand. Hold onto your stick. This wasn’t a hard chop, it was a sideways swipe for maintaining positioning. My social media feeds me hockey training videos all day and there was one this week where the coach was teaching teenagers about stick battles/positioning and was teaching them to smack sticks hard to knock them out of the way. He even was advocating double hits besides everyone knows the first one is coming. This is standard and commonplace. Marchand is applauded for his work on this goal.



If the call last night makes sense then Marchand deserved two, arguably three calls on that play. Letang held onto his stick so it’s no call….if that’s the real rule then that rule is crap. We want baseball and lumberjack swings out. Not these plays. The rule shouldn’t be “but the defender lost his stick so it’s a penalty no matter what.”

Put me in the camp that Marchand deserves multiple penalties per game.

 

[chaz4hockey]

 

[bleedgreen]

There was no puck there. They weren't battling for position. Stutzle reached back, and took a swipe at Svech's stick.

That's interference. It was blatant.

I can not speak to social media hockey training videos. I only get the social media basketball training videos that tell me I should be taking 3-5 steps after I pick up my dribble.

My point was that kids are appropriately being trained to do stick battles. Actual coaches are training them to do so as well, I’m sorry if my reference was below your level of credibility! I’ve coached, I play with coaches. I’ll run it by them if it helps? The pass to Stutzle was on its way as well as being the obvious play in the moment (thus Svech reaching) so I don’t understand what you mean by “no puck”. He felt Svech coming from behind, but doesn’t know the speed of how he’s coming back so he makes sure the stick is out of the way to buy himself time to make his move. Standard play and no real difference from Marchand other than a dropped stick. If Svech is holding onto his stick like he should there’s no call there. It was only called because he didn’t hold onto his stick, which is my point of if that’s the rule it’s ridiculous. I get Ottawa being frustrated.

 

[LakeLivin]

View attachment 931967

I was going to say that I hope they're not rushing kooch back but I'm sure the Borg isn't short sighted. Gotta believe playing him tonight doesn't risk further injury.

 

[Tryamw]

View attachment 931967

Wrong thread

 

[Discipline Daddy]

From my perspective, we got lucky on this call, and a couple others. We take it and move on. Probably should have been a final score more like 4-2 Canes, but I'm thrilled Martin got the shutout. I at least can see the motivation behind making the call, but to me it's less a 50/50 call and more an 20/80 and we got the lucky 20%. The sport is impossible to officiate at full speed.