In Memoriam Stephen Peat - Rest In Peace

Leafshater67

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I think I've heard more about his struggles after the NHL than his play in the NHL when he was active.

It's an awful story for sure, but also a seemingly quite common one. Mentally ill drug addicts roaming the streets. A danger to themselves and sometimes others. It's a shame we do not have the systems in place to get these folks off the street and into care whether they like it in their ill state of mind or not.
Because we closed the asylums. It’s a sad reality that they kept people safe. We were told they were going to close them so the people could have better lives and get specialized care and freedom but I’m not so sure it worked
 

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Because we closed the asylums. It’s a sad reality that they kept people safe. We were told they were going to close them so the people could have better lives and get specialized care and freedom but I’m not so sure it worked
That may be what we were told, but it was really just a way to cut spending on social welfare programs in order to, at least in the case of the United States, increase military spending, cut taxes for the wealthy, and divert money into private industry. It had the added benefit of providing another group of people to point to as the cause of things like crime and community deterioration.

Mental health facilities had plenty of issues that needed to be addressed. Instead, those issues were twisted into reasons why the system itself was a failure that needed to be shut down. It's classic "break it so we can call it broken" bullshit with immeasurable negative impacts to lives and society as a whole, and it worked due in large part to the attitudes of people like the aforementioned MIA poster who decided to use this thread to go on a tirade against the humanity of addicts.
 

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What happens when you experiment with drugs as a minor ( who isn’t equipped to make mature choices ) and into adulthood you’re addicted? Is that really from a ‘ poor choice ‘ when you had no legit consent as a minor. Or someone who is prescribed meds and becomes addicted organically? People judge but they have no f***ing clue. I was addicted to banging dope until I was 18, stemming from childhood, right into my f**ing vein, I would NEVER make that same choice today. Have some compassion and people shouldn’t judge things they know nothing about. RIP Mr. Peat
 

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I think I've heard more about his struggles after the NHL than his play in the NHL when he was active.

It's an awful story for sure, but also a seemingly quite common one. Mentally ill drug addicts roaming the streets. A danger to themselves and sometimes others. It's a shame we do not have the systems in place to get these folks off the street and into care whether they like it in their ill state of mind or not.
Wtf is wrong with you?
 
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How much of it though is fighting related and how much of it is just due to the regular rough style of hockey they played? You know a lot of times in these fights, they're just grabfests with few solid blows. It's not like most NHL fights are Hagler/Hearns fights to the death. Some are quite sloppy.

But what about all of the other things that happen over the course of a career at all levels? Getting checked into the boards and hitting your head on the glass. An errant stick coming down on your head. Getting elbowed, getting crosschecked up high. There is so much that happens where the head comes into play in just regular hockey situations. The cumulative impact of that can lead to issues down the road too.
NHL is just the interim stop. All the junior hockey stuff, brains still developing at that stage. If this is their skill and hand waiving to the scouts.... then it's AHL ECHL and the dozen other leagues to roll through. A few years on the big stage and then its Quebec senior leagues if Europe or Russia don't call. It all takes a toll. But point taken. The equipment now is body armour.
 

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Agreed completely. I'm also not sure why some people have this "if you can't lift yourself up by your bootstraps, f*** you" type mentality. What's the issue with helping people battling mental health or addiction?
Some people are giant A HOLES
 
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PaulD

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I do and I don't feel sorry for guys like this.

As a human, you feel bad and hope they get help and support, but they've gotta do some things to help themselves too.

Looking at them as ex pro-athletes I'm not so sure. If you're not a star, do you think you're gonna be on the big money, have your name in headlights for a long time and never gonna have to work of do anything else after sport?

I've little sympathy for drug addicts, even stemming from prescriptions because at what level do people take responsibility for themselves?

If the sport doesn't work out, what did they think plan 'B' was gonna entail? Anyone just taking things one day at a time and not looking ahead, pro-athlete of otherwise is putting themselves at great risk of falling over.
You are strong and wise.
Some pro athletes are weak and none too bright.
I do have sympathy for them or anyone else who ends up living on
the streets. No matter the reason.
 

PaulD

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Always good to see non mental health specialist talk out of there arse holes about addiction.

Bravo, hope nobody in your family or group of friends, ever have an addiction problems.

man this place gets worst every year.
Everything that is "out there" can also be found "in here"
But there are far more good souls in and out of "this place"
 

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