In Memoriam Stephen Peat - Rest In Peace

Sheppy

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I know he was unwell (mentally) - I read that he was in some sort of accident a few weeks ago and ended up losing the battle of his injuries.

Awful to hear. Always remember that fight against PJ Stock.
 
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Agreed completely. I'm also not sure why some people have this "if you can't lift yourself up by your bootstraps, f*** you" type mentality. What's the issue with helping people battling mental health or addiction?
The thing with the adage of lifting one's self up by their boot straps is they get meaning wrong.Tie some straps to your boots and start pulling.The physics of it is you will get nowhere and can get nowhere. The adage is a command to do what is impossible
 
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Also, people always try to lecture me about addiction and I always respond that it always comes down to the choice, the choice that some make to do drugs or the choice to not. Nobody is born addicted to drugs. I have no problem having compassion for people who make that bad choice and want to get better, but it starts with the person. They're not a victim or "sick" and I won't treat them as such.

Neonatal abstinence syndrome?
 

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Also, people always try to lecture me about addiction and I always respond that it always comes down to the choice, the choice that some make to do drugs or the choice to not. Nobody is born addicted to drugs. I have no problem having compassion for people who make that bad choice and want to get better, but it starts with the person. They're not a victim or "sick" and I won't treat them as such.

But again, liberal society for ya.
literally not true
 
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TheSmokingMan

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Some real trash opinions of addiction and addicts from 2017 in this thread.

RIP

Agreed, those comments have not aged well. I believe that people should be held accountable for their actions, but that doesn't stop me for feeling compassion for people trapped in addiction and mental health struggles.

Apparently, he and another pedestrian were hit by a car while crossing the street early in the morning. He was on life support for 2 weeks before he died. Fortunately, he was an organ donor and will live on through the people who receive transplants.

A lot of the addiction problems he had were a direct result of injuries he sustained playing in the NHL. Yet another enforcer meets a tragic demise when his life falls apart after his playing career was finished. What do you think the odds were that he was also suffering from CTE?
 

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I just don't buy any of this crap. I have forgotten a lot more about addiction, and dealing with those with it, than many here will ever know and I know for a fact that there is a character element at play. Those that want to get better work hard to get better, those who don't, won't, no matter how strong their addiction, no matter how much command of their minds it has.

I'm not trying to dehumanize them, I'm saying that absolutely the way liberal society is treating addiction these days is letting a large contingent of them off the hook. It's sickening.

Also, people always try to lecture me about addiction and I always respond that it always comes down to the choice, the choice that some make to do drugs or the choice to not. Nobody is born addicted to drugs. I have no problem having compassion for people who make that bad choice and want to get better, but it starts with the person. They're not a victim or "sick" and I won't treat them as such.

But again, liberal society for ya.
There have been cases where babies are born addicted to drugs. Just pointing that out.
 

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I just don't buy any of this crap. I have forgotten a lot more about addiction, and dealing with those with it, than many here will ever know and I know for a fact that there is a character element at play. Those that want to get better work hard to get better, those who don't, won't, no matter how strong their addiction, no matter how much command of their minds it has.

I'm not trying to dehumanize them, I'm saying that absolutely the way liberal society is treating addiction these days is letting a large contingent of them off the hook. It's sickening.

Also, people always try to lecture me about addiction and I always respond that it always comes down to the choice, the choice that some make to do drugs or the choice to not. Nobody is born addicted to drugs. I have no problem having compassion for people who make that bad choice and want to get better, but it starts with the person. They're not a victim or "sick" and I won't treat them as such.

But again, liberal society for ya.

Well I believe the part about you forgetting a lot about addiction. Or maybe not knowing it to begin with. There's more and more evidence and research showing how your brain gets rewired.

There's also the element of do you want to feel good about how the problem is being dealt with ("we're tough on drugs!")? Or do you want to do the things that research has shown to have the greatest success rate at dealing with the problem?
 

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Boy this thread had long lead up to the final end for this man..... 2017 this started. New York POST has article on his death. Classic CTE. And he took the NHL settlement offer in 2019 for the class action suit. $22K was shocking number. Second round selection so had some skills. Another stat. $22K not gonna change attitudes. Put a $1K fee on every player, team and owner FOR EVERY GAME, for a player injury fund would be a start.
 
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I just don't buy any of this crap. I have forgotten a lot more about addiction, and dealing with those with it, than many here will ever know and I know for a fact that there is a character element at play. Those that want to get better work hard to get better, those who don't, won't, no matter how strong their addiction, no matter how much command of their minds it has.

I'm not trying to dehumanize them, I'm saying that absolutely the way liberal society is treating addiction these days is letting a large contingent of them off the hook. It's sickening.

Also, people always try to lecture me about addiction and I always respond that it always comes down to the choice, the choice that some make to do drugs or the choice to not. Nobody is born addicted to drugs. I have no problem having compassion for people who make that bad choice and want to get better, but it starts with the person. They're not a victim or "sick" and I won't treat them as such.

But again, liberal society for ya.

You cannot frame addiction in a deterministic way, call it a moral failing, and then in the same breath say that you have compassion for addicts. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
 

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A lot of the addiction problems he had were a direct result of injuries he sustained playing in the NHL. Yet another enforcer meets a tragic demise when his life falls apart after his playing career was finished. What do you think the odds were that he was also suffering from CTE?

Of course it can’t be proven until autopsy, but his family believes he experienced the mental symptoms commonly associated with CTE.
 
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I think I've heard more about his struggles after the NHL than his play in the NHL when he was active.

It's an awful story for sure, but also a seemingly quite common one. Mentally ill drug addicts roaming the streets. A danger to themselves and sometimes others. It's a shame we do not have the systems in place to get these folks off the street and into care whether they like it in their ill state of mind or not.
 
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I just don't buy any of this crap. I have forgotten a lot more about addiction, and dealing with those with it, than many here will ever know and I know for a fact that there is a character element at play. Those that want to get better work hard to get better, those who don't, won't, no matter how strong their addiction, no matter how much command of their minds it has.

I'm not trying to dehumanize them, I'm saying that absolutely the way liberal society is treating addiction these days is letting a large contingent of them off the hook. It's sickening.

Also, people always try to lecture me about addiction and I always respond that it always comes down to the choice, the choice that some make to do drugs or the choice to not. Nobody is born addicted to drugs. I have no problem having compassion for people who make that bad choice and want to get better, but it starts with the person. They're not a victim or "sick" and I won't treat them as such.

But again, liberal society for ya.

This some stank ass stank, I’ve seen better commercials and opinions for Preparation H than this take.

Have you no heart? Shame on you.

Looking at his old posts from years ago, guy is a total nut job. HF Boards, you can pile on this penile leakage of a human.
 

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