Post-Game Talk: Stars shut out the Jets 2-0

[SimpleSimon]

what are the records with Arniel at the helm compared to Bowness?

 

[kanadalainen]

The 5 on 3 results had me thinking irrational thoughts.

 

[purdy44]

Bring back Arniel as head coach, please

 

[bustamente]

Either the pp coach sucks or the players on the pp sucks, maybe it's both but perimeter passes and no one in front of the net wont amount to much.

 

[surixon]

I struggle with calling that a well played game -
2nd night were we are slow out of the gate, fall behind, and then play a good third while chasing the game.
I'm not on the ledge or anything - but we need more effort at game start or we're going to be in the losing column more often than not.
I don't even want to get into the PP tonight - we're supposed to be a 5v5 team anyway.
Just don't like our last couple of starts.

On to the next one - I'll be looking for a sense of urgency in the first that matches what we bring in the 3rd

Dallas is a top team so I expect there to be periods of the game where they have more momentum. It so happened it was more at the beginning of the game tonight.

Also we had a red hot start last game, couldn't score and then we sagged the back of the 1st and much of the second. So nothing wrong with our start against the Preds imo.

 

[kanadalainen]

On to the next one - I'll be looking for a sense of urgency in the first that matches what we bring in the 3rd

That would be so nice.

 

[surixon]

Either the pp coach sucks or the players on the pp sucks, maybe it's both but perimeter passes and no one in front of the net wont amount to much.

We need a completely different setup. The only time we look dangerous and score of late is when Perfetti leaves the bumper and we are forced into a different configuration as other players have to rotate to accommodate the switch.

 

[bustamente]

I don't think the Jets played badly I also don't think they played well enough to win.

 

[kanadalainen]

 

[bustamente]

We need a completely different setup. The only time we look dangerous and score of late is when Perfetti leaves the bumper and we are forced into a different configuration as other players have to rotate to accommodate the switch.

As they say the pp coach has tried nothing new and is all out of ideas.

 

[Atoyot]

Good game. Connor-Scheifele-Ehlers almost made magic happen multiple times. I don't want them as a regular line but when we need a goal it's a great way to load up. Perfetti created 3 or 4 grade A opportunities by himself. Unfortunately he put Pionk in a bad position on the 2-0 goal. 3rd line seems to be coming back down to earth, they're trying too many low percentage plays, stick to the meat and potatoes game that you're good at.

 

[roccerfeller]

Oilers starting to heat up too.

I suppose our season turned around once we beat them earlier this year, hopefully we can replicate that on Thursday, otherwise the L’s will start to pile up

I don’t think we outplayed Dallas tonight, despite the better second and third periods
they played a great road game and were defensively sound. Despite the push from ourselves and good checking at times I felt we couldn’t deliver high quality shots or connect (sloppy play)
Dallas could have potted a few more goals if we didn’t have some puck luck our way
Our PK has had improvement but the PP being weak continues to be a story and was frustrating to watch tonight
Our chances were either not connecting or blocked by Dallas

On the plus side, 55, 91, 37 were all very good. I liked 62, 9 and 7 as well. Helle was sharp and protected the side of the net well. Scheif was beasting. Iafallo and Nino with smart defensive plays. Pionk with the oopsie at the end but he was otherwise good.

It feels like it’s just me but these two games vs Dallas have been frustrating for me. Credit to them they regrouped well after a stinker vs the flames. Ok “embarrassed” is an over reaction (what hockey fights cancer night not get anyone else a bit emotional??) but there was a fair bit to not like about this game

I hope there are minimal excuses for our power play because, it’s bad. I hope the solution doesn’t boil down simply to Vilardi coming back

 

[raideralex99]

The Flames put up 7 goals against the Stars last game so you know the Stars would not going to allow very many chances this game.
But seriously if you have two 5 on 3 PPs and you can't score you deserve to lose.

 

[Atoyot]

Prior to this game, over the previous 10 games, the Jets had the 4th best powerplay in the league. I know that's a lot of qualifiers but they've been producing really well on the power play. They created plenty of chances tonight, sucks none of them went in.

 

[LowLefty]

Dallas is a top team so I expect there to be periods of the game where they have more momentum. It so happened it was more at the beginning of the game tonight.

Also we had a red hot start last game, couldn't score and then we sagged the back of the 1st and much of the second. So nothing wrong with our start against the Preds imo.

We had next to zero drive in the first - I couldn't care less about what Dallas brought in the first - more about the fact that we brought very little - and on home ice to boot. I'm not OK with that - we need to be better prepared going into games where we are playing our top competition in the central.
I'm not seeing that right now -
Like I said, I'm not going to lose sleep over it -

 

[RetroWinnipeg]

Huh?

 

[surixon]

Good game. Connor-Scheifele-Ehlers almost made magic happen multiple times. I don't want them as a regular line but when we need a goal it's a great way to load up. Perfetti created 3 or 4 grade A opportunities by himself. Unfortunately he put Pionk in a bad position on the 2-0 goal. 3rd line seems to be coming back down to earth, they're trying too many low percentage plays, stick to the meat and potatoes game that you're good at.

I dunno. Pionk could have chosen any number of things to do but elected to try to deek the guy. I don't put any of that on Cole.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Unlovely stuff.

Schuffles and Perfecto played well.

Couldn't buy one. On to the next.

A lot of players played well. Dallas was just a better team.

 

[NA Hockey]

I dunno. Pionk could have chosen any number of things to do but elected to try to deck the guy. I don't put any of that on Cole.

I agree it was a perfect pass and all pionk had to do was shoot, instead he tried a deke and fell down.

 

[Atoyot]

I dunno. Pionk could have chosen any number of things to do but elected to try to deck the guy. I don't put any of that on Cole.

Re-watching it, agreed 100%. Nothing wrong with what Perfetti did at all, seems like Pionk flubbed it and panicked.

 

[surixon]

I agree it was a perfect pass and all pionk had to do was shoot, instead he tried a deke and fell down.

Even if he didn't feel he had a shot he could have put it into the corner as we had a few players deep already.

 

[Atoyot]

A lot of players played well. Dallas was just a better team.

Disagree. I think the Jets were the better team tonight. Sometimes the better team loses. C'est la vie.

 

[snowkiddin]

Special teams back to costing us points again

 

[roccerfeller]

Disagree. I think the Jets were the better team tonight. Sometimes the better team loses. C'est la vie.

I dunno. I don’t see how we were the better team tonight.
Dallas outplayed us / set the tone in the first
Outplayed us defensively most of the game (not a lot of high quality chances were generated by us)
They played a good road game
They also had some bad puck luck themselves
We had some good players. There was effort there. But the better team?

We also couldn’t convert on special teams - something that doesn’t translate to being the better team tonight imo

 

[Atoyot]

Bring back Arniel as head coach, please

Again, this is such a ridiculous response to the past couple games. Arniel was talking to Bowness the entire time he was gone. We weren't going to avoid a 2 game losing streak for the rest of the season by keeping Arniel as the head coach.