redbeardtx
Registered User
For an 18 year old kid from Finland, his English is pretty damn good
For an 18 year old kid from Finland, his English is pretty damn good
This is a really good summary. Hemming plays for my local team in Finland so I watched him quite a lot last year. He knows how to score but usually needs a lucky bounce or his linemate to build the actual scoring chance. I can't really remember many creative plays or assists by him.I worry about his hockey sense. I don't see a ton of it in the shift-by-shift videos.
I see a lot of NHL level skills and a strong motor. Good effort all over the ice, solid skating, elite shot.
But I do notice a distinct lack of passing and vision. That's just not gonna work at the pro level. And if that doesn't develop within the next year or two, it most likely never will.
Yeah I think with #29 you are basically just looking at having a useful roster player, and anything better is a huge win. If he can be a mid 6 sniper then that's fine by me. I could also see him playing very well next to Robertson/Hintz or Johnston where he would just need to find open space and use his shotI'd rather Hemming stay in Finland and get a bigger role with TPS. I'm a little higher on Emil than most here so I think the CHL would be a waste of his time and a step back in development.
His production in the Liiga tracks similarly to some of the Finns currently in the NHL like Aho, Hintz, and even Rantanen.
** = Draft Year
Aho had his breakout year with Karpat in his D+1 -
**14/15 season - 30 GP 4+9 for 13 pts
15/16 season - 45 GP 20+25 for 45 pts
Hintz had his in his D+2 with HIFK-
**14/15 season - 42 GP 5+12 for 17 pts
15/16 season - 33 GP 8+12 for 20 pts
16/17 season - 44 GP 19+11 for 30 pts
Hemming draft season
**23/24 season- 40 GP 7+4 for 11 pts
Rantanen was a more highly touted prospect than all 3 of these guys, and had been in the TPS system since 2010. He got a lot of opportunity and played a lot more hockey, but his first year in the Liiga was comparable to Hemming's. Difference being, it was Rantanen's D-1 year.
Rantanen D-1 and Draft year -
13/14 season - 37 GP 5+4 for 9 pts
**14/15 season - 56 GP 9+19 for 28 pts
Rantanen is obviously the furthest comparable, especially considering he played on the top line in his draft year with TPS and was much further along than all 3 of these other players. As far as his international tournament success, well the teams he's played with are not comparable at all lol.
Rantanen played with - Aho, Hintz, Laine, Puljujarvi.
Hemming has played with - Helenius, Kiviharju, Vaisanen, Halttunen.
Anytime he plays in his age group(U18/U20), he's a PPG player. Give him another year in TPS with better linemates and more ice time (PP time) against men. I think he'll have a much more productive D+1.
I'm not saying he's a lock to be a superstar by any means, but I like the skillset I see from him and certainly see top 6/PP specialist potential. I think if you're disappointed watching him now, and you were expecting to see more out of him, well then you're not talking about a player that would've fallen to us at #29. He would've gone much higher.
Not disagreeing with anything you said but why do you think the CHL would be a waste of his time and a step back in development?I'd rather Hemming stay in Finland and get a bigger role with TPS. I'm a little higher on Emil than most here so I think the CHL would be a waste of his time and a step back in development.
His production in the Liiga tracks similarly to some of the Finns currently in the NHL like Aho, Hintz, and even Rantanen.
** = Draft Year
Aho had his breakout year with Karpat in his D+1 -
**14/15 season - 30 GP 4+9 for 13 pts
15/16 season - 45 GP 20+25 for 45 pts
Hintz had his in his D+2 with HIFK-
**14/15 season - 42 GP 5+12 for 17 pts
15/16 season - 33 GP 8+12 for 20 pts
16/17 season - 44 GP 19+11 for 30 pts
Hemming draft season
**23/24 season- 40 GP 7+4 for 11 pts
Rantanen was a more highly touted prospect than all 3 of these guys, and had been in the TPS system since 2010. He got a lot of opportunity and played a lot more hockey, but his first year in the Liiga was comparable to Hemming's. Difference being, it was Rantanen's D-1 year.
Rantanen D-1 and Draft year -
13/14 season - 37 GP 5+4 for 9 pts
**14/15 season - 56 GP 9+19 for 28 pts
Rantanen is obviously the furthest comparable, especially considering he played on the top line in his draft year with TPS and was much further along than all 3 of these other players. As far as his international tournament success, well the teams he's played with are not comparable at all lol.
Rantanen played with - Aho, Hintz, Laine, Puljujarvi.
Hemming has played with - Helenius, Kiviharju, Vaisanen, Halttunen.
Anytime he plays in his age group(U18/U20), he's a PPG player. Give him another year in TPS with better linemates and more ice time (PP time) against men. I think he'll have a much more productive D+1.
I'm not saying he's a lock to be a superstar by any means, but I like the skillset I see from him and certainly see top 6/PP specialist potential. I think if you're disappointed watching him now, and you were expecting to see more out of him, well then you're not talking about a player that would've fallen to us at #29. He would've gone much higher.
Hemming's agent said to finnish media that it's either TPS or Stars organization next year for Emil.
Not disagreeing with anything you said but why do you think the CHL would be a waste of his time and a step back in development?
Why?Hemming's agent said to finnish media that it's either TPS or Stars organization next year for Emil.
He has got an advantage in being a Swedish-speaking Finn. While pure Finnish speakers learn English very well they oftentimes have a harder time to speak it compared to swedish speakers due to how different Finnish is from English.For an 18 year old kid from Finland, his English is pretty damn good
So you're saying Sweden > Finland?He has got an advantage in being a Swedish-speaking Finn. While pure Finnish speakers learn English very well they oftentimes have a harder time to speak it compared to swedish speakers due to how different Finnish is from English.
And more importantly: Dahlin > HeiskanenSo you're saying Sweden > Finland?
And more importantly: Dahlin > Heiskanen
Do it u wontA Suter apologist now saying this?
Might be time to shake the dust off the ban hammer...
His shot stands out even amongst his peers and even amongst some of the older players. His release, his nose for the net, you can tell it’s been a tool that he’s used well over the years. A great first impression. He’s come right in, he’s been very pleasant to be around, cordial with the teammates, listening to all the detail work. Frankly, you can see why he was drafted where he was. It’s going to be really fun to watch him over the next year to see how it all checks out.
I wouldn't be surprised if Barrie Colts comes optionNext year in Finland? Following year in the AHL till we see if he has it?