Post-Game Talk: Stars 2 - Jets 1 in OT, Dallas win Series 4-2

[voyageur]

Appleton played more than Ehlers for inexplicable reasons.

Probably because he played a strong defensive game. Lowry's line was good most of the game. Had a strong 3rd when Nino who was a step behind the play got demoted. The Jets barely survived Nino, Barron and Perfetti's first shift, good thing Lindell shot the puck on net instead of working them. Ehlers line and specifically Ehlers being cute trying to play the puck like a soccer ball led to the GTG. Ehlers also turned over pucks being cute, with the no look shit. But he was ok. I saw him with a great chance to work the odd man rush with Fleury unwilling to give up the puck to the outside looking into the middle. Also saw him make great defensive plays and lead the quick transition, which I thought was the Jets strength this game. I swear some people watch one play and make a decision about a player, just like the dumbasses on these boards who tried to railroad Neal Pionk out of Winnipeg last year, after one particular play to end our playoff hopes.

I thought Arniel made a good coaching change when he moved the defensive players up, and the offensively/defensively struggling players down. Only thing is it really limited the Jets to having only one line that could score but they got their chances, with Perfetti, with Appleton on line changes.

Fans should get used to Arniel being a defensive minded coach. It's not going to change.

I really don't like the group mentality of picking on one player after a defeat. If you played a team game, you never talk that way.

 

[UFO]

gutted, sad and disappointed, but I'm also proud of the team. Scheifele is a warrior and I'm sure the Winnipeg Jets are coming back stronger next year.

It's been a fun ride with you all.

 

[KingJoffrey]

Playing your second best winger so little was the reason for this loss. You don't deserve win as coach if you are so stupid.

Ehlers will leave and Jets will miss playoffs next season.

 

[Razzle71]

-Saw Scheif force a pass a couple times where he had options to do something else and it cost us.
-Any of the young guns able to take Apple's spot next year?
-Oettinger was great.

Best team in the world. A great season, had so much fun and I'm proud to be a Jets fan.

 

[The Unknown Poster]

Probably because he played a strong defensive game. Lowry's line was good most of the game. Had a strong 3rd when Nino who was a step behind the play got demoted. The Jets barely survived Nino, Barron and Perfetti's first shift, good thing Lindell shot the puck on net instead of working them. Ehlers line and specifically Ehlers being cute trying to play the puck like a soccer ball led to the GTG. Ehlers also turned over pucks being cute, with the no look shit. But he was ok. I saw him with a great chance to work the odd man rush with Fleury unwilling to give up the puck to the outside looking into the middle. Also saw him make great defensive plays and lead the quick transition, which I thought was the Jets strength this game. I swear some people watch one play and make a decision about a player, just like the dumbasses on these boards who tried to railroad Neal Pionk out of Winnipeg last year, after one particular play to end our playoff hopes.

I thought Arniel made a good coaching change when he moved the defensive players up, and the offensively/defensively struggling players down. Only thing is it really limited the Jets to having only one line that could score but they got their chances, with Perfetti, with Appleton on line changes.

Fans should get used to Arniel being a defensive minded coach. It's not going to change.

I really don't like the group mentality of picking on one player after a defeat. If you played a team game, you never talk that way.

Appleton is totally useless.

 

[PhilJets]

HEARTS on their sleeve... #55 and #37 and Captain Lowry and the rest of the team..
Hats of to them......
Everybody showed up, just didn't have quite enough..

 

[Jets 31]

That was a tough pill to swallow last night, i really thought we were destined to win and bring it back to Winnipeg for game 7 when Scheifele scored. Jets played probably their best road game of the playoffs last night and that's all you can ask for. Unbelievable, fantastic season though, winning the President's trophy as the best team in the entire NHL is something i never thought i would see. Lots of fun and lots of laughs with this board this season and playoffs. Go Jets Go and see you all again next season.....

 

[GNP]

Playing your second best winger so little was the reason for this loss. You don't deserve win as coach if you are so stupid.

Ehlers will leave and Jets will miss playoffs next season.

You may well be right, and I’ve always thought Ehlers has never been utilized properly during his tenure with the Jets, starting with Maurice.

I don’t think Chevy and the Jets will offer him what his market value is, and Nik will sign somewhere else, and be a star, and the Jets will regret their decision.

If Ehlers isn’t resigned- good chance the Jets miss the playoffs, unless Chevy can trade for at least a 25 goal scorer, and I think that’s what the Jets want to do.

It’s a shame, as I like Ehlers, but I think he’s gone now.

 

[AlphaLackey]

Why would you jump to that extreme and think it’s ok to call someone (whose opinion has been echoed by many here) a sociopath? No one said they had no chance. I’ve been very complimentary. You see what you want to see.

“No one said they had no chance?”

Direct quote: “The team isn’t good enough for playoff hockey and everyone knew it.”

Saying that people who believed otherwise were (again, direct quotes) “embracing mediocrity” and “had a loser mentality”?

If that is not arguing that the Jets “had no chance to win the playoffs”, then there is no meaning in language.

And to couch it all by calling someone a crybaby as a term of weakness, right while we’re in real time watching our star centre in a position where he had to be strong to cry? When it took him profound courage to let go of his pride and let his friends hold him up and be there for him?

Like I said, you do you, but don’t presume others for fools, and certainly not with that flimsy appeal to solidarity afterwards.

I’m fine with the people I actually am “in this together” with, thank you all the same. And that includes others I disagree with on a routine basis. I’m proud of them and I’m proud of this team.

 

[Jets 31]

I was here after the deadline and a lot of people insulted me. I said I want to come
Back and say I was wrong because the jets proved me wrong.

They didn’t. Chevy needs to wear this loss and this failure AGAIN. Appleton should be left behind in Dallas.

The team isn’t good enough. Everyone knew that. Chevy did nothing as usual.

See you all next year when chevy also does nothing and we all pretend the jets are good enough, get our hopes up and are let down again.

Sheif is a warrior. Helle back to form.

Chevy you suck

I gotta say i don't know what reality you live in. Chevy put together the BEST TEAM IN THE ENTIRE NHL together this season and you are shitting on him for doing nothing at the deadline ? Do you know how many players have Winnipeg on their no trade list ? If it was a totally even playing field and there was no ability for players to say no i'm not going there and Chevy did nothing then ya bitch away but that's not the reality we live in. Who knows who Chevy would have liked to add to the team but couldn't. At least we didn't trade any 1st round picks which the majority of good players come from.

 

[AnonoJet]

Schief lost his dad less than 24 hours ago. The whole team is rocked. JoMo goes down in the 2nd. The team plays their hearts out and comes up just short vs the preseason cup favorites

Then this dude parachutes in and shits on Chevy for not making moves at the trade deadline that Chevey couldn't even possibly have made

Come on

I agree with you. Chevy has the toughest job in the league, given all the players that refuse to come here. And yet, we were the best regular-season team and top 25% in the playoffs, in a 32 team league.

It’s easy to get on here and do a mindless rant about Chevy, while showing zero comprehension of what he’s up against. As if there was some easy signing to be had. What nonsense.

 

[Goodette]

Firstly that is what Grapes used to call a good penalty. A breakaway with 15 seconds left, tie game? No choice, stop it any way possible.

Ehlers we talk about money but what about term? He turns 30 next year and likely wants this contract to be long. Meaning we will be over paying once he is too old to fly. To me that is probably the sticking point.

The Presidents trophy was nice but we have one now, concentrate on having the team be ready, healthy and peak at the right time.

We had the misfortune of having to play what will be by far the most physical series of the entire playoffs in the first round. We won that one but it may have drained us just enough to cost us the second round. So much for the Presidents Trophy buying us an easier opponent early. There are none in our division.

Also, I don't want to think about playing Edm without Morrissey. Looks to me like a rematch in the Cup final but we'll see.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Great team, great season. We'll be back stronger next year, if we re-sign Ehlers.

Need to run with Salomonsson at 3RD next season. Blood a bit of youth into the forward group along the way.

 

[kanadalainen]

And to @The Unknown Poster ...

Maybe Chevy didn't assemble a cup winner... but he put together a team of guys that feel this way about each other, and who love our city and our community

There's more to life than winning. Relationships are everything. A day like today with what Schief went through should underscore that

I'm proud to be a fan Jets fan right now

I don't like this post. I LOVE this post.

 

[FFHockey]

That's like giving shit to a fat, bald, unemployed guy who is 5'5 for not being able to pick up a supermodel

This series should show you how hard his job is. At some point, all of Rantanen, Duchene and Granlund were available on thr trade market - but not to us. There's nothing Chevy can do to make a player come here who doesn't want to be here - and that's the vast, vast majority of the players in the league

Hey...I resemble that remark!

 

[AlphaLackey]

Firstly that is what Grapes used to call a good penalty. A breakaway with 15 seconds left, tie game? No choice, stop it any way possible.

That’s absolutely correct and I hope that is something his teammates emphasized during the post mortem. And the numbers hold it up — clear cut breakaways are about twice as likely to result in a goal as a simple minor, especially one where (as someone else so eloquently put it) the PK team gets a free virtual clearing when the period ends.

 

[kanadalainen]

what i dont understand about chaz lucius being drafted, if his genetic/family issue was known, why was drafted

Obviously its not that simple? Markers for that disease exist but its not like there's a tattoo on one's forehead. E-D is manifest as a group of inherited disorders, and involves multiple genes - various levels of penetrance of the disease are present (shades of severity) with different organs involved and staggered impact of normal tendon and organ ECM scaffold disruption.

 

[Jets 31]

When I’m a GM I’ll do it! Probably won’t happen. But most of us here as about the same odds as chevy getting that elusive 2C!

Chevy got the elusive 2nd center in PLD and then PLD decided he didn't want to play in Winnipeg. What is Chevy supposed to do about that ??? It's the reality of a NHL team in Winnipeg Manitoba.

 

[Icelevel]

Sorry guys
Congrats on a great season though

 

[Jet]

Absolutely. This team was the real deal.

I hope Hellebuyck spends the next year figuring out what it is about his playoff game that's getting exploited. I feel like he made some very positive strides in the right direction.

While I think he almost lost us the Blues series, I felt like he wasn't a main factor in the Stars loss. I do think he could have been a factor in a series win, if he'd just been 10% better.

The reason the Jets lost in my mind was special teams, which is crazy considering how good they were for us in the regular season.

Chevy has some work to do in the offseason:

Finding a legitimate 2c
Ehlers replacement
Bottom d pair improvement

Whole I don't mind the idea of seeing if we have some internal options to replace Ehlers (Chibby, Lambo or maybe even Jagermeister) i think he needs to address the 2C option in the offseason. As we've seen finding a 2c in season or at the tdl is very difficult. I think it's easier to find a top 6 winger at the deadline.

Maybe Salo or Heinola can help with the bottom pair improvement but I'm a bit apprehensive about that.

Appleton can f*** entirely off.

 

[Jet]

As frustrated as I get our team is packed with a bunch of beauties. I'm really proud to be a Jets fan and cheering these guys on.

 

[FanForLife]

Can I also say. It’s been a pleasure chatting with you guys.

As primarily a Flyer fan, a fandom that’s being challenged through years of downright ineptitude - it’s been fun to get into the team of the city I call home.

You’re a great group, and thanks for the conversations.

Go Jets Go.

As a Flyer fan in Winnipeg, this is correct....the positivity on this forum has made me more of a Jets fan. Like reading encouraging comments. Be proud, Jets fans, this team showed me something this year....interesting to see where they go from here. I have thoughts, but let you true fans debate...not my place.

 

[jungles]

Went to bed mostly fine. Woke up enraged. Circle November 20th on your calendar folks, it will be the best "Kick a Ginger' day yet!

 

[Do or Die]

Due to market constraints, and dependence on internal improvments......this draft and development team sorely needs some of the young prospects up here, next year......to address some holes remaining, on this the roster

We have tryers, in the bottom 9.....but somebody who could actually put the puck in the net, on occasion is essential. Fleury should be signed.....we still need help with bottom pairings.

Outside this roster....a power forward type would nice, along with a physical D man, with mobility......ya, they don't grow on trees...

 

[Jets 31]

I would also like to say that i thought Pionk had a great playoffs, man i like watching how he isn't scared to battle any player big or small . Thought he made some very good defensive plays last night and throughout the playoffs.