Online Series: Star Wars Andor on D+

This show was AWESOME!

Any one else immediate start Rogue One after concluding Andor?
Yes and I watched Rogue One last week too lol.

With the way this week's arc was crafted, it really does make Rogue One feel like Andor Season 2 Episode 13. Between both viewings, last night gave the second one a lot more emotional context and weight. Being that connective tissue between the show and the movie, episodes 10-12 are a real achievement.

And even crazier to think that Rogue One ties in directly to the start of A New Hope. With a Disney+ account you can watch the most important sequence of events from the first leak of the Death Star to its eventual destruction.
 
It makes Rogue One better, but also much worse with how fanservicey the movie is. Andor is on another level.
Yep. That's my takeaway too. It enhances the experience a great deal but also shines a brighter light on its flaws. Jyn Erso in particular is such an undercooked and poorly developed character, especially when stacking her up against Andor originals like Luthen, Kleya, Vel, etc. Hell even her own father fits in better with this wider Andor-verse. I did appreciate Chirrut and Baze a tiny bit more as victims of the empire after the Ghorman massacre tbh. Before I just considered them generic members of a rebel crew.
 
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Yep. That's my takeaway too. It enhances the experience a great deal but also shines a brighter light on its flaws. Jyn Erso in particular is such an undercooked and poorly developed character, especially when stacking her up against Andor originals like Luthen, Kleya, Vel, etc. Hell even her own father fits in better with this wider Andor-verse. I did appreciate Chirrut and Baze a tiny bit more as victims of the empire after the Ghorman massacre tbh. Before I just considered them generic members of a rebel crew.
that is a macro problem of prequels...lol

I read some similar statements with Better Call Saul because Nacho, Kim, and Lalo were so awesome
 
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It makes Rogue One better, but also much worse with how fanservicey the movie is. Andor is on another level.
I’m glad they filled us in on why Walrus Man was such a surly drunk.

Deadra also became the secret police that ends up a victim of here own system, such as Yezhov and Fegelin
 
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Yep. That's my takeaway too. It enhances the experience a great deal but also shines a brighter light on its flaws. Jyn Erso in particular is such an undercooked and poorly developed character, especially when stacking her up against Andor originals like Luthen, Kleya, Vel, etc. Hell even her own father fits in better with this wider Andor-verse. I did appreciate Chirrut and Baze a tiny bit more as victims of the empire after the Ghorman massacre tbh. Before I just considered them generic members of a rebel crew.

That was part of the edit. If you look at the original trailers, she was hard and tough as nails when she first got to Yavin. Just walking in , you knew she was dangerous. The original cut went from 4 guards walking her in, to the final cut of her strolling across the hanger with a single guard in front not looking like a threat at all. There was much stronger dialog and character development in the original cut too. When the Gilroy's came on board to work on some scenes , he and his brother [who was the editor on Rogue] cut a bunch of good dialog out to soften her up. Most of her hard edge was gone. This is the same brother who wrote most of Andor S2 too. :huh:
 
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That was part of the edit. If you look at the original trailers, she was hard and tough as nails when she first got to Yavin. Just walking in , you knew she was dangerous. The original cut went from 4 guards walking her in, to the final cut of her strolling across the hanger with a single guard in front not looking like a threat at all. There was much stronger dialog and character development in the original cut too. When the Gilroy's came on board to work on some scenes , he and his brother [who was the editor on Rogue] cut a bunch of good dialog out to soften her up. Most of her hard edge was gone. This is the same brother who wrote most of Andor S2 too. :huh:
Wasn't even aware that they did that. Not that I find it surprising. But the end product is the end product. I mean even the way she explains her position on the war to Saw just feels like such a cheap "hey audience. I am a reluctant hero who doesn't believe in the cause and I'm totally not going to change my mind in the span of a day" The first two acts are still diminished potential but the last act, the battle on and above Scariff was tremendous.
 
That was part of the edit. If you look at the original trailers, she was hard and tough as nails when she first got to Yavin. Just walking in , you knew she was dangerous. The original cut went from 4 guards walking her in, to the final cut of her strolling across the hanger with a single guard in front not looking like a threat at all. There was much stronger dialog and character development in the original cut too. When the Gilroy's came on board to work on some scenes , he and his brother [who was the editor on Rogue] cut a bunch of good dialog out to soften her up. Most of her hard edge was gone. This is the same brother who wrote most of Andor S2 too. :huh:
Wasn't even aware that they did that. Not that I find it surprising. But the end product is the end product. I mean even the way she explains her position on the war to Saw just feels like such a cheap "hey audience. I am a reluctant hero who doesn't believe in the cause and I'm totally not going to change my mind in the span of a day" The first two acts are still diminished potential but the last act, the battle on and above Scariff was tremendous.
oh yeah
I specifically remember a line in the trailer that they cut out the movie it was her saying "This is a rebellion, I rebel"
I wish they would release a cut of the original in theaters. Disney could use the money ..lol
 
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oh yeah
I specifically remember a line in the trailer that they cut out the movie it was her saying "This is a rebellion, I rebel"
I wish they would release a cut of the original in theaters. Disney could use the money ..lol
There isn't an "original" to release. The script evolved several times over the course of its development, and there were some re-shoots, but it's not like there was some version of the movie that tested poorly that they then cleaned up. It was just an evolving process.

A lot of the stuff in the trailers wasn't even necessarily an "original" vs "re-shoot" situation. Edwards filmed multiple versions of a lot of different scenes so he could pick-and-choose which to use in the final cut.
 
Loved how the Imperial tyranny ended up eating its own (Partagaz, Dedra, and eventually Krennic in Rogue One).

Great show, especially Season 2.
 

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