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Agreed with others on episode 8 being potentially the best Star Wars content ever. 7 and 9 were fantastic as well. I still think I prefer season 1 overall but the fact that I have to even think about it speaks levels of season 2 for me. They've hit my crazy expectations which I had doubt they'd do.
 
LarKing said:
Agreed with others on episode 8 being potentially the best Star Wars content ever. 7 and 9 were fantastic as well. I still think I prefer season 1 overall but the fact that I have to even think about it speaks levels of season 2 for me. They've hit my crazy expectations which I had doubt they'd do.
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LOL, I briefly forgot what thread I was in.

Episode 8: The Last Jedi?

I agree, Episode 8 did a very good job of ratcheting up the tension and illustrating how the Empire deals with problems.
 
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Big Poppa Puck said:
Fantastic series.

Syril was a lot less annoying this season than last.

They got the fan service pop from me when K2SO was turned on. That was my favorite character in Rogue One. Speaking of droids not enough B2EMO this season :(
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Syril had something approximating personal growth this season, found some external validation for what he believed was a good cause. He was still ultimately a pathetic figure who had it all come crashing down seeing a group he developed a modicum of empathy for get slaughtered and being the dog who finally caught the car with Cassian.
 
Using the spoiler tag just for those who haven't seen Rogue One. If there is anybody like that here.

It would be awesome if, at the end of the last episode, there is a flash-forward where the rebels have some sort of recognition/memorial for Cassian, since we know what happens in Rogue One.
 
Jack Straw said:
Using the spoiler tag just for those who haven't seen Rogue One. If there is anybody like that here.

It would be awesome if, at the end of the last episode, there is a flash-forward where the rebels have some sort of recognition/memorial for Cassian, since we know what happens in Rogue One.
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It's already been confirmed the show ends where Rogue One starts.
 
Really sucks for me that I've been away from home 3/4 of these weeks and have to watch on a smaller screen. Sometimes a laptop on a cramped airplane when I have a migraine. :laugh:

I'll probably save the episodes for tomorrow after work.

Shame it's over but BRAVO.
 
Oh my lord

That last scene...oh my god dude it would've been so cliche for it to end with Cassian jetting off to his first scene of Rogue One. Seeing he has a child who will quite likely live to see the freedom his father died for and a child he'll die never having met them... Beautiful but heart wrenching.

I have a lot more thoughts but that last shot obliterated all of them for the time being
 
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Trying to get my thoughts in a row.

Thinking back on the show as a whole. The way the world(s), characters, stories, themes, messages...everything really was crafted is just superlative. I think even with two seasons, Andor deserves it's place among the upper tiers of prestige television. Forget about among Star Wars series or movies. Star Wars at its best succeeded at being excellent escapism with strong themes and some real life commentary. Andor transcends the quality of everything that came before it without showing a single lightsaber or magic superpower. And it was a show virtually no one asked for. I've said it a few times in this thread but I do not know how this IP can ever meet or surpass this level of quality, but I also never believed Star Wars could achieve this level of quality as a lifelong fan.

So many excellent characters to enjoy throughout. Luthen, Mon Mothma (actually fleshed out), Syril, Dedra, Partagaz, Bix, Vel (even the extra Krennic we got really cements him as one of the strongest original Imperials in the Disney era)..but Cassian stands above just about everyone not named Luthen. I think I said it before this show released season 1 that Cassian was a fairly interesting character out of Rogue One but one who did not get enough development to leave a lasting mark. At this point, he is the definitive "Rebel" to me. I'm not saying that out of some desire to heap Disney with retroactive flowers, but Gilroy did a phenomenal job expanding and exploring a character had a smaller part of an ensemble in R1

As for the final three episodes, I'd still say S2E8 was the peak of the series. But episode 10 was a phenomenal exploration of Luthen and Kleya's respective back stories. 11-12 do serve the purpose of tying up a lot of the story threads that don't bleed directly into Rogue One but it did feel like just about everything that happened was a natural closure of just about everything the series set up with the wider outcome of the overarching narrative being the full formation of the Rebel Alliance, the discovery of the Death Star, and the beginning of the downfall of the Empire. Thiugh even having rewatched Rogue One a week ago, I already forgot how Bodhi comes into the picture with the message from Galen Erso. Edit: I couldn't help but watch Rogue One again right after. I remembered that Cassian was meeting with Saw's contact but for whatever reason I forgot that Bodhi had come to Saw and that's why the contact was reaching out. Also this last arc really did change the way I view the Rogue One story in a fairly significant way but it's still dragged down by the half baked and rushed characterization of Jyn Erso.

Just a few individual things I noted, aside from Cassian unknowingly becoming a father.

It was kind of neat to see that it was Bail Organa who gave Cassian the final clearance to go on his mission at the start of Rogue One. Looking at it from the lens of the butterfly effect, it was like Bail helped avenge the destruction of his planet before it even happened.

While I felt bad for Dedra in episode 8, it was unbelievably satisfying to see her end up in one of those Imperial prisons like the one on Narkina 5. On program, you fascist f***. (and yes, she's just a product of the Imperial system and in some sense a victim but after Ghorman she could have defected)

It's an exceedingly minor quibble but it does feel like K2-SO's dialogue between Rogue One and Andor is a bit inconsistent. In R1 he was far more aggressively sarcastic

I appreciated that even with Gilroy paying internal tribute to Luthen, he didn't shy away from reminding the audience that he did awful things in the name of victory for the Rebels. He was a straight up terrorist. Not that the show needed to remind us, but it was interesting to see that that's what he was teaching a young Kleya and even lamented that he was scared of what he was making her in to.

Anyway. Kudos to Gilroy, the cast, crew, everyone involved in producing this show. I'm sad it's over.
 
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HanSolo said:
Trying to get my thoughts in a row.

While I felt bad for Dedra in episode 8, it was unbelievably satisfying to see her end up in one of those Imperial prisons like the one on Narkina 5. On program, you fascist f***. (and yes, she's just a product of the Imperial system and in some sense a victim but after Ghorman she could have defected)
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And had Deadra not been overstepping her bounds, Jung wouldn't have found the Death Star information to pass to the rebellion.
 
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Damn it suddenly got dusty in my living room for the last few minutes there. Just an incredible show. It made me want to immediately watch Rogue One again but it was already late by the time I finished the finale.
 
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