Hivemind
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We're not about quality, not continuity.I mean Rebels is a 22 minute animated show.This absolutely does not "ruin" the Rebels story. I mean this show still acknowledged she's on her way to the Ghost.
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Jussi
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I think the point trying to be made is not that the speech ruins canon, it was just better written and executed, which makes the writing and execution in Rebels look worse.
Jussi
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But they should not be compared because one is an 22 minute animated show and one was an hour long live action. It is simply not a fair comparison.
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I don't disagree, but those comparisons are always going to be made, fairly or not.
I do appreciate them setting it up to where the Rebels canon still works, and not just going full out "Here's the Rebels crew!" like Filoni probably would.
Jussi
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The only ones from the crew in the scene were Ezra, Hera, Chopper and Zeb. You could've just show here entering the Ghost, have the camera trail her, stop when she enters the cockpit and play the audio during the credits.
Randy Butternubs
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Episode 9
Bix's goodbye with us knowing that Cassian dies and they don't meet again 
Scandale du Jour
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I honestly think episode 8 is the best Star Wars content ever made.
Episode 9
Bix's goodbye with us knowing that Cassian dies and they don't meet again
Plot twist: she chose to hide out on Alderaan
matt trick
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I might just agree with that. Not my favorite necessarily (728 more watches to catch up to empire…) but it’s got to be the emotionally powerful. Almost stressful watching it!
Randy Butternubs
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Scandale du Jour
JordanStaal#1Fan
Tbh, the entire act is just fantastic.
I'm more than likely rewatching it in its entirety tonight.
If this were a single long movie, I'd put it up there with Empire and A New Hope as the best Star Wars content all around.
If this were a single long movie, I'd put it up there with Empire and A New Hope as the best Star Wars content all around.
kingsfan28
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I couldn't have been the only one who thought "there is still 1 more episode to go" near the end of 8.
And that fight! Syril put all his rage into that moment, faced his nemesis and still lost. He inadvertently saved Dedra, and never knew it .
Yeah after my rewatch I'm inclined to agree. Depending on your definition of what makes a Star Wars story a star wars story, some might feel this is lacking certain essential elements. But standing on its own, the one-two punch of episodes 8 and 9 might just be the highest quality Star Wars story ever produced. It's still astounding to think this came from Disney.
matt trick
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I’m recommending it to non-Star Wars friends. If this didn’t take place in the Star Wars universe and it was a Jason Bourne type story that takes place on Earth, would it be more or less popular? I think it may be even more popular. Star Wars guarantees viewership, but there are enough people ambivalent about all things Star Wars that it guarantees lack of viewership in other circles
Scandale du Jour
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It has the more depth of any Star Wars content for sure. The tension is built so well.
You feel bad/stressed for ALL primary characters. You even understand the point of view of the bad guys... and it disgusts you. You know Luthen is right... but he is not likable at all. Deedra is a cold-hearted ladder-climber... but they make you care for her and feel her struggle/loss. The way they built to the massacre, slowly, but you see it coming and you dread it.
And then, yes, episode 9 is a perfect follow-up. The tie-in to Rebels is also pretty nice.
It's funny, I know both Cassian and Mon Mothma live through this show, but I was still on the edge of my seat for that entire episode. Also, every time he uses the Bryar pistol my inner Dark Forces geek smiles.
kingsfan28
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The quality of the character development in this absolutely floored me. All of the characters are complex and there are points where I can feel empathy for almost all of them. It was the last thing in the world that I was expecting in a Star Wars mini-series.
And I agree with matt trick. You don't have to be a Star Wars fan or even a science fiction fan to enjoy Andor. Any fan of, say, espionage-themed series should have no trouble getting swept up in this story.
I think you both alluded to something that was truly remarkable. Dedra's reaction to what happened. I mean, she was objectively involved in something horrific and deplorable and yet her reaction almost makes you feel sorry for her? That's so hard to do in any work of fiction, much less something like Star Wars.
I went from wanting Andor to shoot her to actually kind of feeling sorry for her, while also being like "FAFO" at the same time.
Beau Knows
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Amazing show. I don't know if it's possible to do any better than this with all the baggage that comes with working within the confines of such a mess of an existing universe and the pressure a giant corporation like Disney exerts on creative people.
I'm sure the creators of this show had to fight to keep so much of the "cinematic universe" nonsense out of this and to end what is now a critically acclaimed show after just two seasons. This could have easily turned into an endless mess of spinoff and nostalgia bait like The Mandalorian.
I hope this show has shown this whole thing about it somehow being important that directors/writers need to be fans of these "IPs" is hogwash. I think that line of thinking just leads to more and more of what we've already seen before. Let more creative people come in with their own ideas of what a "Star War" can be.
I'm sure the creators of this show had to fight to keep so much of the "cinematic universe" nonsense out of this and to end what is now a critically acclaimed show after just two seasons. This could have easily turned into an endless mess of spinoff and nostalgia bait like The Mandalorian.
I hope this show has shown this whole thing about it somehow being important that directors/writers need to be fans of these "IPs" is hogwash. I think that line of thinking just leads to more and more of what we've already seen before. Let more creative people come in with their own ideas of what a "Star War" can be.
KallioWeHardlyKnewYe
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That "Who are you?" is such a precise damnation. It encapsulates an entire character's history and choices in just three words. To say nothing of the greater meaning to be read from it. Truly masterful stuff.
Jussi
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Gilroy had full support from Kennedy and CCO Dave Filoni. Although he didn't bring Andor up in quarterly financial report, probably Bob Iger too.
