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Watched eps 7 & 8 so far, about to start 9.

I was skeptical of why Syril needed to be in season 2, but they made it work. I still think his and Dedra's relationship was a bit of a cop out, although it did provide all the meme-worthy moments of the first arc and could have been worth it just for that. But having Syril die on Ghorman was a nice little bit of catharsis for multiple characters, and the choice to have his Mother outlive him and show her crying watching the Imperial News was one of the most brilliant choices in the entire series. Syril's death shows the Imperial propaganda machine's ability to capitalize on even the unplanned events, and use them to further their agenda. It demonstrates how public sympathy can be manipulated, even when the party at fault is so blatantly obvious. You know what type of person his mother is, and how she's going to raise a ruckus to whoever can hear her, and how she will drum up further hatred of the Ghor as a result. Brilliant choice by the writers.
 
Admittedly, episode 7 as a standalone is, by Andor standards, just okay (which for Star Wars standards is still damn good). But episode 8 blew me away. The whole season has been percolating towards the Ghorman Massacre, which in effect seems to be the true powder keg that kicks off the Rebellion proper, and man was it just so well done. Episode 9 is a worthy follow up as well. Mon Mothma's speech was just beautifully written (though it might ruffle some feathers given the very real commentary on what is going on in the real world). It's kind of crazy to me how Lucas has three movies worth of making the Galactic Senate dull, and Gilroy effortlessly manages to make it so enthralling.

The one-two punch of the fascist regime dropping pretense and executing outright genocide to then Mon Mothma speaking out as the voice that starts the rebellion in proper form is such a cool bit of backstory from my view. The show as a whole has shown just enough to show that pre-Death Star, the Empire still had to operate within the bounds of some degree of public decency and decorum to avoid sparking a civil war. They don't just go in and take Ghorman, they need to steer public opinion to avoid outcry and revolt. In season 1 you see sham trials leading to false imprisonment and police state tactics of the ISB and imperial military, but the galaxy isn't in a total state of fascist control. Yet. That's where the Death Star ultimately comes in. It adds to how Princess Leia can get away with running her mouth at Vader and Tarkin with indignation in a New Home. It's not exactly new that the Death Star was meant as a deterrent and tool of intimidation to bend the planets of the Galaxy to the Empire's will but this show does show just how important that was to the Empire, that as controlling as the Empire was becoming, they still had to tip toe before taking certain actions. In its collective hubris, crossing the line on Ghorman ends up being a miscalculation that kicks off the Galactic Civil War and the eventual end of the Empire. No amount of propaganda was able to stop that chain reaction and it was all because the Empire decided it was time to stop being so careful.

And all of that is done so well that reserving the final 5 minutes on Bix breaking up with Cassian and K2SO being switched on almost feels...out of place? Like they're great moments too but after everything this arc focused on, it just felt like an odd way to end it. That would ultimately be my only complaint about the arc and episode 9. And it's not even a real complaint.

It's sad to think this show is almost over because I cannot imagine how anyone will manage to make anything as good or even close to as good as Episode 8 and the arc as a whole. It's been said before but this is easily the best thing to come out in the Disney Star Wars era and for my money it's the best Star Wars anything since the original trilogy. By a lot.

EDIT: Wait...I have another not-complaint. Because I just watched Rogue One recently, it is kind of amusing to me that while he hasn't aged badly, Andor is clearly older in this show than in Rogue One. He's a lot more baby faced in that movie. Can't be helped, but still funny. Genevieve O'Reilly, by comparison looks younger. Draven looks the same.

EDIT 2: As big a star wars fan as I am, I wasn't aware that the Ghorman Massacre and Mon Mothma's second speech were a part of Rebels because I never finished it. Thanks Twitter.
 
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Ep 8

Operation Canned Goods, the Amritsar Massacre and the Kindermord Myth had a three-way

Nothing will top The Red Wedding, but that was intense.
 
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Episode 8 gave me a sudden urge to listen to punk rock and vandalize city property. Commit a federal crime or something.
 
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Very Stable Genius said:
8-9

Damn. :amazed:
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Yeah, so much win! Top notch writing , especially 9.


" She's a Rebel spy" can't be overlooked as Cassian blasters her

Lonnie Jung once again tipping off Luthen, after he personally picked the ISB's agent and told him the exfil team had been infiltrated.

Syril can't even find validation from his nemesis when Cassian asks. "who are you?" The last words he ever hears
 
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It was so good it pretty much ruined everything else around this timeline. Ahsoka LOL Rebels LOL its all f***ed now.
Also should have ended with Bix "I will find you" line, put the K2-SO revival in a post credits seen or something.
 
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kingsfan28 said:
Yeah, so much win! Top notch writing , especially 9.


" She's a Rebel spy" can't be overlooked as Cassian blasters her

Lonnie Jung once again tipping off Luthen, after he personally picked the ISB's agent and told him the exfil team had been infiltrated.

Syril can't even find validation from his nemesis when Cassian asks. "who are you?" The last words he ever hears
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Andor made Cyril move back in with his mom so I get the homicidal rage.
 
Hasbro said:
Ep 8

Operation Canned Goods, the Amritsar Massacre and the Kindermord Myth had a three-way

Nothing will top The Red Wedding, but that was intense.
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As a Finn, Shelling Of Mainila needs to be on that list. And I think our Ukrainian brothers would probably have something to say. Hmm, something connecting those two, can't quite put my mind on it... 🤔
 
In Rouge One, I thought Diego Luna was good, better than ordinary, but not exceptional. With time to grow the character, he has been excellent in Andor, one of the real strengths of the series.
 
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Jussi said:
Rebels is an animated series and very much liked by all fans. Not sure why you listed that?
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Because this makes the Rebels handling of events look like junk, in comparison. That's precisely why they listed it. This handles Mothma's speeches and defection with so much more gravitas than Rebels did it makes that particular Rebels arc seem bad in comparison. It "ruins" that arc of Rebels in that sense.

Not hard to grasp.
 
Hivemind said:
Because this makes the Rebels handling of events look like junk, in comparison. That's precisely why they listed it. This handles Mothma's speeches and defection with so much more gravitas than Rebels did it makes that particular Rebels arc seem bad in comparison. It "ruins" that arc of Rebels in that sense.

Not hard to grasp.
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I mean Rebels is a 22 minute animated show. :huh: This absolutely does not "ruin" the Rebels story. I mean this show still acknowledged she's on her way to the Ghost.
 
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