Online Series: Star Wars Andor on D+

[Jussi]

God put guys like Sam Witwer on the planet for a reason

Not even he cared. If this is referring to age of jedi which was based on a CD-ROM, not technically canon.

 

[Hivemind]

No idea what that is.

It's one of the dumbest things in all of Star Wars (even for episode 2 standards, which is remarkably dumb already).

In episode 2, George Lucas wrote a note about the cloners talking about "Sido-Dyas" (an obvious pseudonym for Darth Sidious), but in one of the drafts there was a typo that said "Sifo-Dyas" and they decided to just stick with it.


Then Dave Filoni and co tried to write a whole backstory to this ridiculous typo, weaving it into Clone Wars.



But ultimately it just creates more absurdities and plot holes regarding how the Jedi came to accept the clone army from the Kaminoans without knowing it was a Sith plot. Both halves of this story are perfect examples of the "over-explaining problem" that Star Wars has, and how Lucas and Filoni are two the chief culprits behind it.

 

[Jussi]

Eh.

 

[Hasbro]

It's one of the dumbest things in all of Star Wars (even for episode 2 standards, which is remarkably dumb already).

In episode 2, George Lucas wrote a note about the cloners talking about "Sido-Dyas" (an obvious pseudonym for Darth Sidious), but in one of the drafts there was a typo that said "Sifo-Dyas" and they decided to just stick with it.


Then Dave Filoni and co tried to write a whole backstory to this ridiculous typo, weaving it into Clone Wars.



But ultimately it just creates more absurdities and plot holes regarding how the Jedi came to accept the clone army from the Kaminoans without knowing it was a Sith plot. Both halves of this story are perfect examples of the "over-explaining problem" that Star Wars has, and how Lucas and Filoni are two the chief culprits behind it.

I guess Sifo-Dias just took some money out of petty cash to buy that clone army.

 

[MadDevil]

For such a competent organization that was always on top of things like the Jedi Order it was shocking they'd fall for something so obvious.

 

[Jumptheshark]

for those interested in how Star Wars tosses stuff out there not realizing it is in the wrong time frame for stuff. Watch the latest New Rockstars video on the first 3 episodes of season 2 and they take a few moments to say "hold on here, that should not be there yet" a couple of times in the video

 

[Jumptheshark]

Not even he cared. If this is referring to age of jedi which was based on a CD-ROM, not technically canon.

Watch his interviews on pod cast. He now has somewhat a full time job with the house of mouse when it comes to certain things

 

[Very Stable Genius]

Enough talk about dumb Jedi Star Wars and more talk about awesome Andor Star Wars.

 

[Jussi]

for those interested in how Star Wars tosses stuff out there not realizing it is in the wrong time frame for stuff. Watch the latest New Rockstars video on the first 3 episodes of season 2 and they take a few moments to say "hold on here, that should not be there yet" a couple of times in the video

Are you trying to say Tony Gilroys isn't a perfect writer????!!

 

[NyQuil]

For such a competent organization that was always on top of things like the Jedi Order it was shocking they'd fall for something so obvious.

I think it's been made pretty clear that the Jedi Order isn't a militaristic hierarchical organization in the traditional sense.

A lot of Jedi go out and do their own thing.

 

[MadDevil]

I think it's been made pretty clear that the Jedi Order isn't a militaristic hierarchical organization in the traditional sense.

A lot of Jedi go out and do their own thing.

I was being sarcastic. My point was more the Jedi aren't exactly known for being at the top of their game during the prequels. I do think they've gone a bit far in just how incompetent they've been portrayed at times, but on the scale of things that annoy me in Star Wars the Sifo Dyas stuff ranks pretty low.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Enough talk about dumb Jedi Star Wars and more talk about awesome Andor Star Wars.

I asked the mods to clean it up and they said no

 

[Jussi]

I asked the mods to clean it up and they said no

I was going to suggest those posts could've been moved to the general Star Wars discussion thread but I guess not.

 

[Bruins4Lifer]

I probably had the wrong expectations of how these 3-episode arcs were going to be told, but I didn't find this first one to be that great. Felt like it was setting up more for the later arcs than anything, when I presumed they would all feel like 3 separate mini-seasons. It's fine, just thought it'd be a bit more interesting.

 

[Sad People]

I probably had the wrong expectations of how these 3-episode arcs were going to be told, but I didn't find this first one to be that great. Felt like it was setting up more for the later arcs than anything, when I presumed they would all feel like 3 separate mini-seasons. It's fine, just thought it'd be a bit more interesting.

I enjoyed the wheat field arc (forgetting the planet name) had some really cool camera shots and intense moments with Bix.

 

[Bruins4Lifer]

I enjoyed the wheat field arc (forgetting the planet name) had some really cool camera shots and intense moments with Bix.

Yeah, I agree the scenes on Mina-Rau were good. I just felt these 3 episodes probably should have been condensed down to 2. Having Cassian stuck as a captive on that jungle planet for an entire episode with that idiot band of guerillas was a real waste of time, and I don't think I'll feel different about that even as this season goes along and gets better.

 

[Jack Straw]

Yeah, I agree the scenes on Mina-Rau were good. I just felt these 3 episodes probably should have been condensed down to 2. Having Cassian stuck as a captive on that jungle planet for an entire episode with that idiot band of guerillas was a real waste of time, and I don't think I'll feel different about that even as this season goes along and gets better.

lol

I was wondering, "how do those people even dress themselves in the morning?"

 

[Jussi]

Yeah, I agree the scenes on Mina-Rau were good. I just felt these 3 episodes probably should have been condensed down to 2. Having Cassian stuck as a captive on that jungle planet for an entire episode with that idiot band of guerillas was a real waste of time, and I don't think I'll feel different about that even as this season goes along and gets better.

Repeating myself here, but people who have seen all the episodes have said this was their least favorite arc. It gets better in this week's arc. Apologies for repetition.

 

[Sad People]

Yeah, I agree the scenes on Mina-Rau were good. I just felt these 3 episodes probably should have been condensed down to 2. Having Cassian stuck as a captive on that jungle planet for an entire episode with that idiot band of guerillas was a real waste of time, and I don't think I'll feel different about that even as this season goes along and gets better.

Na I completely agree with you. Cassian being stuck could of taken up 1 episode tops.

 

[Osprey]

Yeah, I agree the scenes on Mina-Rau were good. I just felt these 3 episodes probably should have been condensed down to 2. Having Cassian stuck as a captive on that jungle planet for an entire episode with that idiot band of guerillas was a real waste of time, and I don't think I'll feel different about that even as this season goes along and gets better.

That plot line felt like it existed just to give the hero something to do and inject some action into the first few episodes. It was the most exciting story arc, but it was ultimately disappointing that Cassian ended up right back where he started. You could easily cut the whole thing.

 

[KallioWeHardlyKnewYe]

That plot line felt like it existed just to give the hero something to do and inject some action into the first few episodes. It was the most exciting story arc, but it was ultimately disappointing that Cassian ended up right back where he started. You could easily cut the whole thing.

I wasn't bothered by it. Without it this first trio would be very discussion/character heavy. Don't get me wrong. I like discussion and character but it is Star Wars so injecting some action makes sense even if it might not have greater story purpose.

But was it pointless?

The delay does lead to the violence and death on Mina-Rau which otherwise might not have occurred. Assuming that will have some consequence...

 

[Jussi]

That plot line felt like it existed just to give the hero something to do and inject some action into the first few episodes. It was the most exciting story arc, but it was ultimately disappointing that Cassian ended up right back where he started. You could easily cut the whole thing.

I felt like the point was to showcase how amateurish some sects of the rebellion are. IIRC, Rebels showed that too.

 

[Osprey]

I wasn't bothered by it. Without it this first trio would be very discussion/character heavy. Don't get me wrong. I like discussion and character but it is Star Wars so injecting some action makes sense even if it might not have greater story purpose.

I wasn't "bothered" by it, just disappointed that it ended with things right back to how they were. If he had escaped with his contact, one of the guerillas or an important item or piece of information, then it could've served a story purpose in addition to being a fun, action-y story line.

 

[Lt Dan]

Thank me later

 

[NyQuil]

Yeah, I agree the scenes on Mina-Rau were good. I just felt these 3 episodes probably should have been condensed down to 2. Having Cassian stuck as a captive on that jungle planet for an entire episode with that idiot band of guerillas was a real waste of time, and I don't think I'll feel different about that even as this season goes along and gets better.

I felt that the heist storyline from Season 1 also had little to do with anything.

It seems to be part of their formula.