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Stanley Cup winners in first AND last seasons

vikash1987

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I was at the HHoF yesterday, and I read the following bit of trivia in the bio of Ralph “Cooney” Weiland (photo attached):

“Weiland is one of only three players to spend at least 10 years in the NHL and win a Stanley Cup title in their first and last NHL seasons.”

Naturally, the question I had in mind was who were the other players who fit this criteria, and have there really been only three?

I know Jacques Lemaire was one, but I’m drawing a blank on the other(s)

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could be a reference to maurice richard? he played 16 games in 42-43 before getting injured so if you count 43-44 as his rookie season then he fits the bill.
 
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There are guys who did this in their first playoff and their last playoff -- for example Martin Gélinas and Mark Recchi -- but they don't quite fit per their actual first and last seasons.

I think Maurice Richard should 'count' as a rookie in 1942-43, so there should be someone else....
 
There are guys who did this in their first playoff and their last playoff -- for example Martin Gélinas and Mark Recchi -- but they don't quite fit per their actual first and last seasons.

I think Maurice Richard should 'count' as a rookie in 1942-43, so there should be someone else....

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could be a reference to maurice richard? he played 16 games in 42-43 before getting injured so if you count 43-44 as his rookie season then he fits the bill.

Reasonable enough to me... under the current Calder eligibility rules he would have been eligible for the Calder in 43-44... although the current cutoff of 25 games in the previous season is 30.4% of the modern 82-game schedule. The regular season schedule back then was 50 games, 30.4% of which is 15.24 games. I'll round that up to 16 (despite that not being mathematically proper) just to let Maurice Richard qualify, because I said so.

On the other hand, when the Calder was first established, I can't find much on what the eligibility requirements were in Maurice Richard's time other than the vague statement that "there were no requirements beyond that the winner be in his first year of competition in the NHL." If you interpret that strictly, that rules out Maurice Richard because of his 16 games in 42-43, although at first the Calder winner was chosen solely by Frank Calder himself. He could have decided to make an exception for Richard on his own, but didn't.
 
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Darren Helm is super close had he not played 11 games (zero points) and 1 playoff in his final season...
 
Ted Harris is really close. Played 4 games in 63-64 but won the Cup as a rookie with Montreal in 64-65 and then again with Philly in his last year in 74-75.
 

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