Series Talk: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2024

[Ceremony]

Really glad I clicked on this tweet and saw the replies.

 

[CharlesPuck]

Posted this on the Sabres board and here too...

Just my opinion but TBS's Pre-Post-Intermission presentations and game broadcasts are far more enjoyable for me than TNT's.

Listening to Henrik is a delight. Such thoughtful and insightful analysis. Total class act.

And Biz is the perfect characterization of a TML fan. I believe his pouting about his team's misfortunes is genuine. He should host his own TML You Tube channel.

TNT has Messier who I enjoy listening to even though Mark is a bit too wooden. Subban is just a clown act.

Can't stand listening to AJ Meleckyo (?) on TNT broadcasts. She grabs every pause to insert her comments. Frankly, she never shuts up.

TBS and TNT are the same broadcast. Just different channels….

 

[dahrougem2]

Posted this on the Sabres board and here too...

Just my opinion but TBS's Pre-Post-Intermission presentations and game broadcasts are far more enjoyable for me than TNT's.

Listening to Henrik is a delight. Such thoughtful and insightful analysis. Total class act.

And Biz is the perfect characterization of a TML fan. I believe his pouting about his team's misfortunes is genuine. He should host his own TML You Tube channel.

TNT has Messier who I enjoy listening to even though Mark is a bit too wooden. Subban is just a clown act.

Can't stand listening to AJ Meleckyo (?) on TNT broadcasts. She grabs every pause to insert her comments. Frankly, she never shuts up.

Lundqvist has been amazing.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

TBS and TNT are the same broadcast. Just different channels….

Yes, Mess, PK, AJ, etc. are all on ESPN.

 

[UnkleKraker]

Leafs losing brings me great joy

Not just losing but imploding in the most embarrassing way.


You hate to see it.

But more than that, you love to see it.

 

[BaconNater]

Why in the heck did the Leafs come back every year with the same core, not even a sniff of playoff hope or success even along the way. It's hilarious for us, but it's baffling

 

[sethro109]

Why in the heck did the Leafs come back every year with the same core, not even a sniff of playoff hope or success even along the way. It's hilarious for us, but it's baffling

And are always in the top 10 power rankings throughout the year.

 

[LOFIN]

Why in the heck did the Leafs come back every year with the same core, not even a sniff of playoff hope or success even along the way. It's hilarious for us, but it's baffling

Had Dubas not been fired, maybe we would've seen Nylander traded away during the summer.

 

[Balthazar]

Had Dubas not been fired, maybe we would've seen Nylander traded away during the summer.

Yea they fired Dubas just before he could fire the coach and make core changes.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Why in the heck did the Leafs come back every year with the same core, not even a sniff of playoff hope or success even along the way. It's hilarious for us, but it's baffling

They really need to fix their defense and their goaltending... but they've needed to do this since all the way back before they signed Tavares. Now, all those big contracts to their "core" and they all have some sort of NMC. Those guys aren't just going to waive to go anywhere. Dubas really f***ed that team for the future. Treliving really is in a no win situation. How the hell is he going to fix/improve that team when he can't make any moves with players approval first?

 

[LOFIN]

Yea they fired Dubas just before he could fire the coach and make core changes.

Though Shanahan could've maybe blocked a trade involving the core-4. But Dubas did talk in a way that change was coming.

 

[Pokecheque]

Doesn’t take an expert detective to figure out whom he’s directing that remark at.

 

[dahrougem2]

Doesn’t take an expert detective to figure out whom he’s directing that remark at.

He is also the only member of the core-4 to either maintain or improve upon his regular season scoring rate come playoff time. The other three regress every single season.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[LOFIN]

They really need to fix their defense and their goaltending... but they've needed to do this since all the way back before they signed Tavares. Now, all those big contracts to their "core" and they all have some sort of NMC. Those guys aren't just going to waive to go anywhere. Dubas really f***ed that team for the future. Treliving really is in a no win situation. How the hell is he going to fix/improve that team when he can't make any moves with players approval first?

Once again, we can quibble about their goaltending and defense, but what it has (once again) come down to is they just don't score enough goals. And that's not in small part on the big 4.

 

[Pokecheque]

Toronto is f***ing terrible at zone entries

And this is why

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

TBS and TNT are the same broadcast. Just different channels….

Talking about the hosts and panel members, not corporate ownership. (Disney probably owns all of it...)

Its a different set and a different presentation. And level of discussion.

Heck, the actual feed is probably provided by the home team.

 

[Pokecheque]

Once again, we can quibble about their goaltending and defense, but what it has (once again) come down to is they just don't score enough goals. And that's not in small part on the big 4.

But the defense plays a big part in why the “Big 4” can’t get it done in the postseason. Instead of focusing on finishing and making plays, they gotta generate the offense in the first place. That’s simply impossible to do in the postseason.

I would hope this finally puts a nail in the idiotic notion that teams nEeD tO GeT tOUGHerrrrrr in order to succeed in the postseason since it’s mostly been those “tough” players costing Toronto the most. But I know it won’t.

If I’m the Leafs GM I’m moving on from Marner (and possibly Rielly) and doing everything possible to infuse that blueline with as much speed and skill as possible, jettisoning every meathead I can…but I know that won’t happen.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

They really need to fix their defense and their goaltending... but they've needed to do this since all the way back before they signed Tavares. Now, all those big contracts to their "core" and they all have some sort of NMC. Those guys aren't just going to waive to go anywhere. Dubas really f***ed that team for the future. Treliving really is in a no win situation. How the hell is he going to fix/improve that team when he can't make any moves with players approval first?

Tavares is way, way past his expiration date.....

It sounds to me like player "future financial security considerations" have superseded sound common sense contract negotiations and cancel clauses.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

But the defense plays a big part in why the “Big 4” can’t get it done in the postseason. Instead of focusing on finishing and making plays, they gotta generate the offense in the first place. That’s simply impossible to do in the postseason.

I would hope this finally puts a nail in the idiotic notion that teams nEeD tO GeT tOUGHerrrrrr in order to succeed in the postseason since it’s mostly been those “tough” players costing Toronto the most. But I know it won’t.

If I’m the Leafs GM I’m moving on from Marner (and possibly Rielly) and doing everything possible to infuse that blueline with as much speed and skill as possible, jettisoning every meathead I can…but I know that won’t happen.

Good points. We all know that regular season play and playoff season play differs. Lots more effort, intensity and effort is applied to forechecking, back checking, gap closure, stick on stick checking, etc. when in playoff mode.

I'm speculating that The Leaf forwards can't play through this because they usually don't have to during the regular season where they have lots of time and space to operate in.

TML = NPR.......Not Playoff Ready

 

[dahrougem2]

Just watch the games. Benoit, Edmundson, and Lybushkin can't make passes. Forwards have to come back and skate the puck up through 5 Bruins every time they're on the ice.

When Jake McCabe is your second best puck mover you are in a f*** ton of trouble.

 

[Cypher]

Leafs will be fine. It's not like Matthews is getting a 1.6m raise starting next year and WIlly a 4.5m raise starting next year. And it's not like the 4 of them plus Rielly make 54m combined (62% of cap) and all 5 have NMC ... oh wait, they do.

They'll have the same team next year, same results, and Marner will catch fire at the start of the season, and they'll extend him.

 

[Balthazar]

But the defense plays a big part in why the “Big 4” can’t get it done in the postseason. Instead of focusing on finishing and making plays, they gotta generate the offense in the first place. That’s simply impossible to do in the postseason.

I would hope this finally puts a nail in the idiotic notion that teams nEeD tO GeT tOUGHerrrrrr in order to succeed in the postseason since it’s mostly been those “tough” players costing Toronto the most. But I know it won’t.

If I’m the Leafs GM I’m moving on from Marner (and possibly Rielly) and doing everything possible to infuse that blueline with as much speed and skill as possible, jettisoning every meathead I can…but I know that won’t happen.

Tavares is an 11M 4th liner. It starts there.

 

[CobraAcesS]

New Gibson? What the f*** does that even mean?

Saros has been a Vezina caliber goalie for like the last 6 years, par this one. Gibson is not that.

Saros is a better goalie than Hellebuyck and Oettinger, yes, I said it.

Good goalie on a bad team. No reference is going to be exact.

We'll see, I'm just not over here hoping we trade for him yet. Nashville may not be good, but a Trotz team always makes the goalie look good at the expense of offense.

 

[dahrougem2]

Tavares is an 11M 4th liner. It starts there.

He is truly awful at 5v5.

They could have had Kadri and Hyman for Tavares' money. Or two top-4 defensemen.

Just a brutal UFA signing.