henchman21
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Setting up a hypothetical... Landy back in Round 2 vs Vegas. The Avs will actually have the more expensive roster on the ice.
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Except Landy will be rusty and unlikely to be a top line player. Stone looks like he hasn't missed a day.
IF the Avs were to get to round 2 and IF Landy were to come back, it would be extraordinarily obnoxious when people inevitably whine about the Avs being over the cap. Can pretty well guarantee the Avs would rather have had a healthy Landy the last 2 seasons (and going forward) than the chance to ice an even more expensive roster than Vegas
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They wouldn't, because Landeskog hasn't played in two years and didn't return just in time for the playoffs. Not even remotely close to the situation with Vegas.
It is a complete muscle memory/human reaction to drop your glove. You actually have to physically think and train yourself to keep your glove high and to remain it high (which the best NHL goalers are able to do).
dahrougem2
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Oh I know it’s not remotely close but prepare yourself anyways (I’d still be happy it meant we were in round 2 with Landy back) because there are a lot of fanbases (Canucks and Oilers in particular) with huge persecution complexes that love to whine
henchman21
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Oh I'm sure he will be rusty.
Sure it would be, but it doesn't really matter.
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I get what you’re going for here but let’s not pretend they are remotely the same. Sure the end result is the same but the two paths are completely different. We know you have no problem with how the cap limitations operate but this is not the example to use…. The on -ice cap is the hypothetical in this instance, not how the cap was acquired.
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I heard that VGK are going to be making a trade for Jakob Markstrom tomorrow and the NHL is going to allow it because they've been 'on-hold' to get that trade registered with the NHL registry since the trade deadline and the guy from the NHL office just got back from vacation - so it's ok then.
henchman21
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I'm simply saying that when people state _ over the cap, the Avs are likely to be one of those teams too. There is a lot of semantics and nuance to it that only hardcore fans care about.
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the difference being that Landeskog was legitimately injured.
The goalposts have been moved from "there is a rigorous audit system to verify injuries and these injuries are legit" to "f*** you the CBA allows it".
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henchman21
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the lacerated spleen was 3-4 month timeline and somehow he's back in 5 weeks. The exact date the first game of the first round started. Come on man
henchman21
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Hockey players have returned on similar timelines (and it wasn't 5 weeks... it was almost 9).
Splenic Lacerations and Return to Play: Case Report of 2 Professional Hockey Players - PMC
Several sports medicine reviews have highlighted a 3- to 6-month time frame for return to play after splenic lacerations. These reviews are based on several well-defined grading scales for splenic injury based on computed tomography (CT). None of ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Chiarelli
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3-6 months does not equal almost 9 weeksHockey players have returned on similar timelines (and it wasn't 5 weeks... it was almost 9).
Splenic Lacerations and Return to Play: Case Report of 2 Professional Hockey Players - PMC
Several sports medicine reviews have highlighted a 3- to 6-month time frame for return to play after splenic lacerations. These reviews are based on several well-defined grading scales for splenic injury based on computed tomography (CT). None of ...
henchman21
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Click the link... two players in that study returned in 2 months. The same as Stone.
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Landy ain’t coming back. He’s been out on the ice in shoes while guys are out there with skates.
He's not practicing with the team, but that doesn't mean he's not practicing at all. The Avs, don't want cameras on him right now.
henchman21
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If the Avs make it to round 2, he will play. May not be game 1, but he will.
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For the record, I tend to lean closer to your viewpoint on this topic. If the league heads and PA don’t have a problem with it, it is what it is.
But I don’t think there’s nuance at all to either of these circumstances. Landy has missed well over a year of hockey, it doesn’t matter when he comes back, that’s as legit a justified LTIR example as you can get. The same is not true for stone, multiple years of missing time but back for game 1. The just are not comparables imo.
henchman21
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It wasn't a group medical study, but how two AHL players both got lacerated spleens and were able to return in 2 months with no negative impacts. Basically saying the recommendation is to scan at 8 weeks or 6 week post symptoms to see if it has healed. It is entirely possible that Stone had the injury and recovered in the time he was out.
dahrougem2
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Like a lot of shady things in life, Vegas and its injuries are shady.
Do we have proof they are falsifying? No. We also don't have proof these injuries are what they claim.
End of the day result is the same, but the conspiracy theorist in me absolutely believes Vegas falsifies medical reports.
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