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tsn.ca seems to be pessimistic while Sportsnet is alot more optimistic....I dunno who to believe!
anyways, its nice to hear they're meeting again this week
anyways, its nice to hear they're meeting again this week
Shawnski said:"Kyoto credits".... as someone nicknamed my proposal to have a moving salary cap/floor based on trading for cap space may be it.
Pepper said:How the hell does NHLPA expect to get anywhere when they have made one official offer 4 months ago and even that being closer to a joke than a real offer?? Sheesh.
I think it's kinda obvious which side is trying and which one is not, PA better get off their asses and start making real contributions. If they just keep rejecting league proposals, nobody can blame the league for bringing in the replacement players.
nyrmessier011 said:It's tough to want to officially propose when the NHL picks and chooses what it likes about each offer and puts it in there pocket, like the 24% rollback.
Bauer83 said:Just a heads up to you. That is called negogiations. You take what you want from there proposal, then you add the stuff you want. And this continues till you get a deal done.
nyrmessier011 said:It's tough to want to officially propose when the NHL picks and chooses what it likes about each offer and puts it in there pocket, like the 24% rollback. Since the players are being locked out, whatever they propose is --more so then not-- giving way to what the NHL wants. The NHL isn't going to propose anyhting that the PA is going to react like 'ok wow we'll take that, can you make that official please?' Because it's a lockout, and not a strike, what the players offer is always going to be giving way to the NHLs needs, henceforth, there going to jam it in there pocket and say ok we're going to make that official and you can't go back on it.
It's tough to do that at this point because if they offer one thing that the NHL likes, the PA in a month from now might realize that was a mistake and they should have put forth a different type of basis for an agreement. They might have liked offering a 24% rollback in december, but now with all this talk of revenue sharing, the PA might want to offer a very low cap to the NHLs needs, but with huge revenue sharing, so they might not want to include the rollback. I know that example doesn't really hold much water, but it's just an example. If this was a strike I'm sure you would see more proposals from the players then the owners.
nyrmessier011 said:I think you all enjoy being pessimistic...according to the reports, this was the most peaceful and worthy bargaining session since the CBA expired...unless there just keeping people happy for some good PR.
The PA has made 1 offer, Dec 9...that's it...When they were trying to save the season, the PA gave a 49 cap offer, that included a 10% increase 3 of the 6 years the deal the NHL had offered. I think at that point the PA were still working off of a league proposal...saskhab said:Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the count for total offers made 5 for the NHL, and 3 for the NHLPA? 2 of those offers for each group came in the final 2 days before the cancellation of the season... The PA put the first official offer on the table in December. No official offers were presented prior to the lockout... just 6 concepts brought forth by the league to the PA to discuss.