Speculation: Implications of Canada joining the EU

[LadyStanley]

As a small business owner, I have had to prohibit sales to the EU due to shipping regulations. (Laudable goals but impractical financially to comply. )

 

[Yukon Joe]

Yeah great, if you want another governing body, meddling in local affairs, new rules and regulations, and Canada would be paying not recieving, In Sweden we pay 2.3 billion dollars to EU this year, so for Canada probably 10 billion. So without every person 0-110 years old would have 20 dollar extra per month, this has been going on for decades.

Dude - Alberta alone contributes $2.9 billion to the rest of Canada already net of the benefits we receive.

So on the one hand, having to contribute slightly more to have it go to Romania, rather than Newfoundland, isn't that big a deal.

On the other hand - Canada joining the EU will never, ever happen. The UK couldn't make being in the EU work, and you can see Europe from England. Having Canada would be 10x as difficult.

 

[Channelcat]

WW3 might be bigger problem

 

[Golden_Jet]

Seems like the USMCA is something already being threatened from the POTUS end.

And I wouldn’t be surprised if BRICS enters the discussion.

POTUS didn’t even know who was in BRICS, thought S was Spain lol.

But opening the article, it says, Why Canada should join the EU?
Europe needs space and resources, and Canada needs people.

Wow what a deep article.

 

[DopeyFish]

I think EU is a logical step Canada should seriously consider. Canada is not really able to handle an aggressive country like the USA if they decide to damage us, especially with our currency.

it's in USA's best interest that we don't join, but it's starting to feel like we might need to do something drastic because we're gonna be in trouble in the long run if this continues.

I think most Canadians would probably agree that we're not in a good position right now and there's no easy way out of this to keep our autonomy. If we need to adopt the Euro, let's do it.

 

[majormajor]

Dude - Alberta alone contributes $2.9 billion to the rest of Canada already net of the benefits we receive.

So on the one hand, having to contribute slightly more to have it go to Romania, rather than Newfoundland, isn't that big a deal.

On the other hand - Canada joining the EU will never, ever happen. The UK couldn't make being in the EU work, and you can see Europe from England. Having Canada would be 10x as difficult.

The UK was doing much better in the EU, that's rarely even debated these days. There was no problem making it work in the EU. Their economy has flatlined since they've tried to go alone.

 

[Albatros]

Yeah great, if you want another governing body, meddling in local affairs, new rules and regulations, and Canada would be paying not recieving, In Sweden we pay 2.3 billion dollars to EU this year, so for Canada probably 10 billion. So without every person 0-110 years old would have 20 dollar extra per month, this has been going on for decades.

Norway is also among the major net contributors and follows the regulations despite not even being a member, that's more about access to the internal market. Without it you'd still be paying through tariffs and alike and goods that don't follow the regulations would be untradeable. As for Canada, full European internal market access is much less vital as it is for Sweden and Norway. A much lighter trade agreement would likely be in mutual interest.

 

[MXD]

There's definitely benefits for Canada and EU to get economically closer, but that is true for pretty much every State/Organization.

But seriously, on aspects other than economics, that's not happening. Maybe participation at Eurovision if every party involved seriously wishes it.

 

[Greatzsky 99]

Norway is also among the major net contributors and follows the regulations despite not even being a member, that's more about access to the internal market. Without it you'd still be paying through tariffs and alike and goods that don't follow the regulations would be untradeable. As for Canada, full European internal market access is much less vital as it is for Sweden and Norway. A much lighter trade agreement would likely be in mutual interest.

Thats a bunch of balony, you think we didnt have goods before EU
Do you live in the EU? and have lived through the changes?

Norwau doesnt pay to EU

Does Norway pay into the EU budget?
Norway's financial contributions include funding to reduce disparities in Europe and contributions to the budget of EU programmes and agencies which Norway participates in.12 juli 2022

 

[Albatros]

Thats a bunch of balony, you think we didnt have goods before EU
Do you live in the EU? and have lived through the changes?

Norwau doesnt pay to EU

Does Norway pay into the EU budget?
Norway's financial contributions include funding to reduce disparities in Europe and contributions to the budget of EU programmes and agencies which Norway participates in.12 juli 2022

Eh, even your own quote demonstrates that they do.

If you want your goods to enter the internal market then they need to meet its regulations, regardless of whether you're a member or not. So a country like Norway must decide between not following the regulations and not exporting to EU countries, or following the regulations as they are given without having a say in Brussels unlike members do.

They've chosen to comply and pay, in return their goods receive largely the same treatment as those from member states. Except Russia and Belarus all non-members in Europe have this kind of agreements with the EU with varying degrees of integration.

Canada is different in that the main factor affecting the freedom of movement is not politics as much as it is geography, and that they have various other markets available with roughly the same not insignificant obstacles whereas Norway or Sweden could never sufficiently replace their by nature much smoother EU trade with China or indeed Canada.

 

[DoyleG]

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[MeHateHe]

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Ok then

 

[BraveCanadian]

I don't see Canada actually trying to get membership, although it would be great for average Canadians on many fronts like privacy, health, mobility etc. However, it is a big big deal to give up your sovereign currency.

Likely we'll just deepen trade ties and lessen our reliance on the US economy now that they have proven to be wholly untrustworthy.

 

[Jumptheshark]

This thread is so funny.

I don't see Canada actually trying to get membership, although it would be great for average Canadians on many fronts like privacy, health, mobility etc. However, it is a big big deal to give up your sovereign currency.

Likely we'll just deepen trade ties and lessen our reliance on the US economy now that they have proven to be wholly untrustworthy.

In correct. UK kept our pound the entire time we were in the EU

 

[BraveCanadian]

In correct. UK kept our pound the entire time we were in the EU

Ok?