Speculation: Implications of Canada joining the EU

[MeHateHe]

A few European statesmen and some wild-eyed bolsheviks at the Economist (Why Canada should join the EU) have now mused about Canada joining the EU for reasons, which naturally makes me wonder about the implications on the NHL and hockey in general. Assuming adopting the Euro would be a part of this, would having Canadian based players being paid in dollars but teams taking in revenue in Euros be more or less problematic? My sense is that the Euro is a bit more stable than the Canadian dollar and so the difference in value would be less likely to be volatile. I wonder about EU work permits and immigration rules, and whether that would make it more or less problematic for players to move across the border, or if the professional sports leagues would have to have unique rules in place. I also wonder about the draft: are their provisions of European law (specifically dealing with free movement of workers) that would constrain the league if teams played in an EU member state?

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[sawchuk1971]

Where did you get this information?

 

[JMCx4]

Where did you get this information?

Ref. Why Canada should join the EU

The rest appears to be the OP's speculations (as the Thread Title announces). The basic topic of Canada --> EU has been wandering around the internet for nearly 20 years. Just as valid for web fodder now as it was then.

 

[eojsmada]

With a Poilievre government, there is no way they apply for EU status.

 

[qc14]

I think it would definitely stabilize some of the canadian/us dollar fluctuation. Probably no more import draft or foreign player quotas in the CHL. The only other thing I could think of though is maybe they give the IIHF a little bit more weight to throw around?

 

[WarriorofTime]

Not happening.

As an EU member, Canada would be required to adopt the EU’s common external trade policy. This means Canada’s existing trade obligations under USMCA could conflict with EU rules. EU membership involves joining its customs union, which imposes a common external tariff on goods entering the EU. This would override Canada’s ability to set its own tariffs under USMCA. Canada would no longer negotiate directly with the U.S. and Mexico but instead rely on the EU to represent its trade interests. This could complicate the administration of USMCA and disrupt the seamless trade Canada currently enjoys with its North American partners.

I doubt anyone making this "suggestion" has seriously thought through these ramifications, and why it makes it completely impracticable.

 

[PCSPounder]

Seems like the USMCA is something already being threatened from the POTUS end.

And I wouldn’t be surprised if BRICS enters the discussion.

 

[Albatros]

Only "European" states are eligible to join, in Canada's case that'd be quite the stretch even if it's ultimately a political decision. And no, the NHL couldn't exist within the EU in its current form.

 

[Three On Zero]

Not happening.

As an EU member, Canada would be required to adopt the EU’s common external trade policy. This means Canada’s existing trade obligations under USMCA could conflict with EU rules. EU membership involves joining its customs union, which imposes a common external tariff on goods entering the EU. This would override Canada’s ability to set its own tariffs under USMCA. Canada would no longer negotiate directly with the U.S. and Mexico but instead rely on the EU to represent its trade interests. This could complicate the administration of USMCA and disrupt the seamless trade Canada currently enjoys with its North American partners.

I doubt anyone making this "suggestion" has seriously thought through these ramifications, and why it makes it completely impracticable.

It’s about as practical as becoming a part of the US, won’t ever happen. Canada is a healthy and resource rich nation, it just needs to figure some things out. A topic for a different forum though.

 

[majormajor]

Not happening.

As an EU member, Canada would be required to adopt the EU’s common external trade policy. This means Canada’s existing trade obligations under USMCA could conflict with EU rules. EU membership involves joining its customs union, which imposes a common external tariff on goods entering the EU. This would override Canada’s ability to set its own tariffs under USMCA. Canada would no longer negotiate directly with the U.S. and Mexico but instead rely on the EU to represent its trade interests. This could complicate the administration of USMCA and disrupt the seamless trade Canada currently enjoys with its North American partners.

I doubt anyone making this "suggestion" has seriously thought through these ramifications, and why it makes it completely impracticable.

The premise is that USMCA is already being discarded by Trump. And if US-Canada relations continue to deteriorate, then Canada will need new partners. It would have to be the EU.

 

[eojsmada]

The premise is that USMCA is already being discarded by Trump. And if US-Canada relations continue to deteriorate, then Canada will need new partners. It would have to be the EU.

Canada-US relations will greatly improve once Trudeau is out of office. And Trump was the one who negotiated the current USMCA. He's just using the threat against the current regime to try and get them to back off their current policies and give the new government a headstart.

 

[majormajor]

Canada-US relations will greatly improve once Trudeau is out of office. And Trump was the one who negotiated the current USMCA. He's just using the threat against the current regime to try and get them to back off their current policies and give the new government a headstart.

There is a lot of wishful thinking going on. You have people on both sides of each issue thinking Trump is secretly doing a reasonable thing in their favor. Meanwhile his advisors from his first administration say he is not capable of strategy.

 

[eojsmada]

There is a lot of wishful thinking going on. You have people on both sides of each issue thinking Trump is secretly doing a reasonable thing in their favor. Meanwhile his advisors from his first administration say he is not capable of strategy.

Well...the Canadian election is happening later this year, so that's not a stretch. And Trump did negotiate the USMCA. And using Tariffs and nixing deals was his MO throughout his first term as President. So there's no real wishful thinking going on. He just uses economic pressure points to get people to take action quicker, in a way that favors his policies and totally in keeping with known behavior from his previous term.

 

[majormajor]

Well...the Canadian election is happening later this year, so that's not a stretch. And Trump did negotiate the USMCA. And using Tariffs and nixing deals was his MO throughout his first term as President. So there's no real wishful thinking going on. He just uses economic pressure points to get people to take action quicker, in a way that favors his policies and totally in keeping with known behavior from his previous term.

I can't tell which end goal you're ascribing to Trump.

There are pro Trump people who think he is trying to stop drugs and migrants (even though maybe more goes in the other direction). And there are pro Trump people who think it really is to get trade concessions in USMCA. And then there are the people cheering on annexation. And you claim he is just trying to help the next Canadian government?

 

[eojsmada]

I can't tell which end goal you're ascribing to Trump.

There are pro Trump people who think he is trying to stop drugs and migrants (even though maybe more goes in the other direction). And there are pro Trump people who think it really is to get trade concessions in USMCA. And then there are the people cheering on annexation. And you claim he is just trying to help the next Canadian government?

Helping the next Canadian Government helps him. If he can get Canada to get back to its Oil and Gas, and get back to what he had when he renegotiated the USMCA, then it helps the US position. The next Canadian government is speculated to be a Conservative one, so if he can get the current regime to start to change some of its policies, ahead of that election, it would help both the US and Canada, economically.

 

[majormajor]

Helping the next Canadian Government helps him. If he can get Canada to get back to its Oil and Gas, and get back to what he had when he renegotiated the USMCA, then it helps the US position. The next Canadian government is speculated to be a Conservative one, so if he can get the current regime to start to change some of its policies, ahead of that election, it would help both the US and Canada, economically.

Okay wishful thinking confirmed.

 

[eojsmada]

Okay wishful thinking confirmed.

Haha.