From what I can tell, the movie doesn't push any conspiracies or propaganda. Even the negative critic reviews say that it has "good intentions." It seems as though people are judging it based on association. The actor may have crazy thoughts on the issue and others promoting it might, as well, but it doesn't seem like that should matter if they're not in the movie. It doesn't seem to matter to most people that Tom Cruise believes in Scientology just as long as he doesn't put it in his movies.
Movies: Sound of Freedom (Drama/Thriller)
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It becomes hard to not think of QAnon and the related conspiracies when the lead actor and main reason the movie was made talks mostly about that during interviews promoting the movie.
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That’s fair. It’s still a movie about a very real issue. You can appreciate that while separating the man from the movie
TheBeastCoast
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I went and saw it on a whim the first day or so, before the controversy really blew up. I personally thought it was a good movie at the time and didn't walk away thinking it was some QAnon right wing nut job movie. Caviezel does seem like a true nut job though like above so is Tom Cruise and countless other celebrities. I thought it was a good movie though and it is a real problem obviously. Not even going to bother getting into the whole political sideshow it is devolving into.
I should also note that the real guy that the movie is based on is also a Q-Anon supporter and spreads conspiracy theories regularly. Recently during an interview with Jordan Peterson, another "special" person, Tim Ballard went on about west African "baby factories" that raise kids to be used only for organs for the rich and contained satanic abuse....so ya I understand why people will link this movie to those subjects.
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It’s still dramatizing a serious issue the world is facing. I don’t care if the whole thing is a lie. It’s a movie. I’ll grant you whatever level of lunacy you want to place on the people who made this movie but sex trafficking is a serious issue and we should have more attention paid to it.
RandV
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But because of the source you can't really look over the intent of the creators of the movie, which I'm assuming is essentially what you would call rabbit holing.
I can only go by the trailer, which mostly looks like a regular movie, other than this one blurb that's included in said trailer:
Like damn that seems quite the bold statement there. No one is going to deny trafficking happens in the world, but to that extent? I am speculating here, but I doubt the movie really goes into detail on that claim. Rather the movie seems to follow someone in a law enforcement agency working in child sex crimes who gets asked by a boy he rescues to save his sister who's down in a central/south American crime compound with loads of other children. I also doubt here specifically what all these children are intended for.
So what I'm assuming you have here is basically a whole bunch of breadcrumbs for someone to watch the movie, take an interest in the subject matter, 'do their own research', at which point you're entering the rabbit hole that leads straight to QAnon where they hope you go 'aha it all makes sense now!' and join the cause.
You can't just make a movie straight up about what QAnon actually because they'll get laughed out of the room. But considering the belief of the creators behind the movie, the fact that there's sites that QAnon people are encouraged to use to buy tickets to make sure other people see the movie, and tell me I'm not on the right track here.
What's the intent of the creators of the movie, though? It seems to me that it's to raise awareness about sex trafficking. You're speculating that it goes beyond that. Maybe it does for some, but maybe it doesn't for others. Maybe the movie leaves out the conspiracies because many of the people involved in the movie don't agree with them. Either way, does it matter? Should we reject a movie that brings much-needed awareness to a terrible problem that hurts many, including kids, just because we're worried that it might bring a little awareness to a fringe political group peddling kooky ideas?
I don't know about it approaching the drug trade, but I can believe that it's the fastest growing criminal network. According to Wikipedia, its estimated global profits were $9B in 2005 and $99B in 2016. Also, FWIW, and this is just anecdotal, but I recently read a policeman in a small town in Canada say that more of his department's workload these days is related to human trafficking than drugs and violent crime combined. Who knows if that's true or common, but it does sound like a problem that's exploded in recent decades.
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Troy McClure
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I didn‘t believe you based on a hunch you were playing little red riding hood, and you’ve confirmed my hunch. You’ve watched multiple YouTube reviews and have kept up with what other media sources are saying about the movie. Clearly, you knew exactly what this was about.
If you want to promote this movie, why be so coy about it?
Spring in Fialta
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What an embarassing thread. The OP is so obvious.
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‘Sound of Freedom’: The Wild True Story Behind 2023’s Most Controversial Film
While critics, interest groups, and political factions rage against the anti-child-trafficking drama, its distributor is laughing all the way to the bank.
He did say, "I've been seeing movie reviews on youtube since then," presumably meaning since creating this thread. In other words, he watched them after, not before. Three hours passed in between his posts, so there was plenty of time.
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RandV
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I suppose some clarification is required if they're talking about 'human trafficking' in general or 'child trafficking', which is a bit ambiguous considering the movie is specifically about child trafficking and if the nutcases think wealthy elites need children to harvest it would make it a much bigger industry.
Like the Canadian anecdote you point out, that would fall under general human trafficking. Same as the sunken migrant boat I mentioned previously.
RandV
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Okay so getting more background info from this the 'based on a true story' guy behind it is basically QAnon Frank Dux.
Ehhhh, I watched the reviews after I made this thread because it turned into a culture war BS thread and I wanted to know why. I posted the thread because it has a 100% rotten tomatoes score, honestly, that's it. If you want to continue the witch hunt or read your tea leaves, so be it.
Who ****ing cares.
Dude dedicates his life to saving people from sex trafficking and you seem to care more that he believes in a conspiracy theory, why?
Despite how sketchy the real life guy comes across, it also sounds like he really did care about the trafficked victims and helped rescue 6,000 over the years:
www.historyvshollywood.com
Sound of Freedom vs. the True Story of Tim Ballard
We pit Sound of Freedom vs. the true story of Tim Ballard, a former government agent who quit his job so that he could complete his mission and rescue more than 100 women and children from child traffickers.
According to the article above, "As stated at the end of the movie, human trafficking is a 150 billion-dollar-a-year criminal enterprise. It has eclipsed the illegal arms trade and is roughly a third of the size of the drug trade. American citizens are often the ones traveling to other countries to exploit children." So, yeah, it's referring to human trafficking, not just children. Elsewhere in the article, it's mentioned that they rescued minors and adults in real life. It's just that the movie took a little creative license and made them all minors.
Jovavic
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If you need a movie in 2023 to open your eyes about human trafficking I don't know what to you tell other than to come out of your cave and join society some time. I might blow your mind with this, but some people wear different color ribbons to raise awareness and give support to other people that have this horrible disease called "cancer".
This is what I was trying to post before and it the boards kept giving me an error thanks!
Bocephus86
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The Venn Diagram of people that tell us not to trust the main stream media narrative and then tell us to ignore the views/opinions of the creators of this movie at the same time is a circle.
Again if you are not aware of the issue of sex trafficking you must be living under a rock. Maybe it's because of my job but I am very much aware of the issue and it's not like it is something that is not taken seriously by the authorities, at least in wester countries. Please link to this article or tell me what small town? I work in law enforcement in Canada I would be curious
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If you really want to help educate yourself properly and know who to contact if you think you are witnessing an abduction or something seems off.
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Don't rely on a movie made by a guy and about another guy who think missing kids are often taken for organs and adrenochrome...
The movie is something that is divisive because of these people involved and the subject of the movie having been co-opted by extremists who bring negative light to the subject by talking about satanic rituals and other Q-Anon related garbage.
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Do you at least understand why it’s hard to believe that you saw that a movie had a 100% score on rotten tomatoes and without looking into what the movie was about, you came to HFBoards to make a thread about it, while also passing along praise from “people” in favor of the movie that you say you knew nothing about aside from its Rotten Tomatoes score?
RT score down to 74% and falling. Four of six top critics pan it. 99% "audience score" definitely a red flag, too. Whatever the merits of the movie, there is something certainly fishy about the initial inflated numbers. Incidentally, according to The Guardian, Trump hosted a private screening of the film. The article quotes Steve Bannon as giving it a rave review. Here's the full article:
www.theguardian.com
People need to keep in mind the broader context which sure looks sketchy to me, but usually with these things it's best to watch the movie and judge for yourself. The flick is not going to bite anybody in the ass unless they let it.
Trump hosts screening of Sound of Freedom, a hit with QAnon devotees
Ex-president holds golf club screening of child trafficking film, with Steve Bannon, Kari Lake and Jack Posobiec in attendance
www.theguardian.com
People need to keep in mind the broader context which sure looks sketchy to me, but usually with these things it's best to watch the movie and judge for yourself. The flick is not going to bite anybody in the ass unless they let it.
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I listened to QAnon Anonymous podcast coverage of the film. They said the movie didn't have any direct references to QAnon, it was basically just a poor man's Taken.
I remember only liking one scene from Taken. Liam Neeson is confronting former-partner-turned-corrupt-cop in his home. Corrupt cop pulls a gun and tries to shoot Neeson, but the gun doesn't fire, there are no bullets. Neeson had unloaded the gun earlier (I don't remember how the movie contrived this). Neeson gloats, "that's what happens when you're behind a desk too long, you forget things, like the weight of a loaded gun." And it was set up before that former-partner-turned-corrupt-cop had been behind a desk for so long that he was losing his touch. Just a basic set up/payoff, classic storytelling stuff.
I remember only liking one scene from Taken. Liam Neeson is confronting former-partner-turned-corrupt-cop in his home. Corrupt cop pulls a gun and tries to shoot Neeson, but the gun doesn't fire, there are no bullets. Neeson had unloaded the gun earlier (I don't remember how the movie contrived this). Neeson gloats, "that's what happens when you're behind a desk too long, you forget things, like the weight of a loaded gun." And it was set up before that former-partner-turned-corrupt-cop had been behind a desk for so long that he was losing his touch. Just a basic set up/payoff, classic storytelling stuff.
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