In regards to how the wasteful government allocates money.
Later bro, have fun with Trevor.
Proposal: Something has to Change - Net Salary Advantages to select NHL teams, and Disadvantages to others
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Later bro, have fun with Trevor.
Stephen Gionta
Boston College > Boston University
And why exactly are you saying sarcastically for me to have fun with my cousin?
Have fun with the shootings in Chicago, hope ya don't catch one
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You know you still live in America. Your chance of getting shot is astronomically higher than basically any other developed country that isn't currently being invaded.
Oh no you insulted the city I live in because of stuff that happens in neighborhoods I don't live in. You got me so good.
"I was proven wrong but I can't admit it so I'll insult where you live."
Stephen Gionta
Boston College > Boston University
Lol not proven wrong. Police officers and firemen are not the government hahaha.
They are definitely the government.
Here's another hole in your argument:
The Sheriff is an elected official
The mayor, an elected official, appoints the police chief/superintendents.
You can keep saying it but you're flat out wrong.
Not to get political, but you have an excellent point
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Yup, pretty much. Which is why I just hate all the rhetoric the last couple of years. Just so completely out of touch for the sake of being divisive and blue collars buy it. But alas, I digress, let’s not get political indeed.
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to fix this would be simple. not just in the nhl but all sports leagues.
why all leagues dont sit down with the irs and all other tax dept. and work out a deal.
A simple FLAT TAX. all players for all leagues pay a 20% flat tax, no deductions at all for anything. flat tax payable to feds and then province or state with NO STATE able to refuse their part of the flat tax. a complete EQUAL tax for ALL players or ALL LEAGUEs. I other words if you are a PRO PLAYER you pay PRO PLAYER FLAT TAX.
why all leagues dont sit down with the irs and all other tax dept. and work out a deal.
A simple FLAT TAX. all players for all leagues pay a 20% flat tax, no deductions at all for anything. flat tax payable to feds and then province or state with NO STATE able to refuse their part of the flat tax. a complete EQUAL tax for ALL players or ALL LEAGUEs. I other words if you are a PRO PLAYER you pay PRO PLAYER FLAT TAX.
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Explain why any league or government, federally or on a state or provincial level purposefully lower the tax burden for rich athletes, conversely increase it for rich athletes and potentially lose their income in other ways. For example (Let me preface this by saying this an overly simplified argument and only really covers one aspect) :
State income tax in California is higher than Florida. Florida's property tax is higher than California. If you now tell all sports that there is some arbitrary tax code for athletes only, states that don't take income tax lose out money in property taxes and other areas where they tax higher to cover a low income tax rate. Players wouldn't stay there. In states or provinces with high income tax, why would those governments lower the effect tax rate for millionaires by 3%-5% while offering better property tax rates. The governments on state/provincial level lose money. Then what do you do? Tell governments to adjust property taxes and etc to give equality across those standards also?
Before you mention Jock Tax.... You get taxed in the state/province you earn income. Athletes obviously do this and way more frequent rate than other people. But this would also apply for regular people too. For example, if I love in BC, but working in Alberta. I pay tax in both (did this for a couple years working in the oil sands).
When people think normalizing or standardizing income tax is a simple thing, they are grossly misinformed what it actually entitles. And its why no professional sports league in the world in history has ever tried to normalize or account for state/provincial level taxes. If the argument is for a luxury tax on teams or creating a soft cap, sure different issues because that could be equal in some sense. Long term vs Short Term (NBA is good example with how the luxury tax long term has benefited smaller teams).
Just about every elections in Canada, a politician promise to tax the rich... the rich = hockey players too. And they're getting elected most of the time. It's not a simple one time thing, there's a lot of $ there. Nothing sports leagues can do about it. We're getting what we deserve, by choice, only ones who can fix this is us, starting with Toronto and Montreal.
mouser
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It‘s actually not the same thing, unless Arizona was planning to spend $81.5m and is now reduced to spending only $71.5m. The cap system was implemented with the expectation that not every team would spend 100% of the cap limit.
If NYR spends $81.5m and AZ spends $71.5m that’s $153m in total. If NYR spends $91.5m and AZ spends $71.5 now the total spending is $163m — an increase of 6.5%. If you implemented a system where cap could be traded then total spending as a % of the cap will increase, pushing up Escrow, or more importantly requiring a offsetting decrease in the cap ceiling to keep total player spending close to 50% of HRR.
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Ok, if the Leafs stop taking Canadian Tire execs to meetings with players, Florida teams make their players pay Canadian taxes. Draw it up.
Matt Ress
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Write your local congressman..or queen or whatever you do in Canada. Do you guys vote and stuff? Seems like you may have made your own bed.
Hypothetical question:
-A fan base starts a go fund me.
- They raise 5 million dollars.
- The go fund me leader/organizer approaches ROR’s
agent, with an offer of 5 million dollars to do a 30 second commercial - conditional on him signing with team X for league minimum.
Legal?
-A fan base starts a go fund me.
- They raise 5 million dollars.
- The go fund me leader/organizer approaches ROR’s
agent, with an offer of 5 million dollars to do a 30 second commercial - conditional on him signing with team X for league minimum.
Legal?
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I want to say yes, because that's basically what the Leafs did with Stamkos and Tavares, but I also want to say no.
EDIT: just thinking more. The PA wouldn't allow it, just f***s over escrow and lowers future contract values if it sets a precedent.
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That was corporate $$$. I believe Canadian Tire or Sportchek.
I’m talking about 100% crowd sourced money raised by fans? It’s a gift for signing.
It sounds like this may be legal!
Seriously, I may start this. This could easily go viral - lol.
mouser
Business of Hockey
NHL would reject the contract, and most likely win any arbitration grievance brought by the PA.
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