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As much as I would love to shit on Uncle Daddy, he was only slightly overrated at the most.

also I can't stand that dude in the video. I don't find his opinions valuable in any way.
 
eco's bones said:
Speaking of Dryden he won 6 Stanley Cups in 7 NHL season + a small part of another. The only player in NHL history to win a Cup before he lost a regular season game or before he won the Calder trophy for rookie of the year. It helped a lot that he played with a lot of HOF'ers--Larry Robinson, Guy Lapointe and Serge Savard were all d-men and all future HOF'ers and there were numerous forwards who became HOF'ers as well--Henri Richard, Frank Mahovlich, Yvan Cournoyer, Jacques Lemaire, Guy Lafleur, Steve Shutt, Bob Gainey and I might be missing a couple. Canadiens had a solid corps of players after those guys too--Pete Mahovlich, Mario Tremblay, J. C. Tremblay, Rejean Houle, Doug Risebrough, Doug Jarvis, Jacques Laperriere, Pierre Bouchard. Dryden would displace Rogie Vachon---an excellent goaliel

It helps playing with other great players and that's not just Dryden--that's Patrick Roy and Martin Brodeur too. Winning 6 cups in such an abbreviated career certainly would put Dryden at the top of the pecking order though. There's a question of how to evaluate Sawchuk, Glenn Hall, Jacques Plante, Frank Brimsek (who had a nickname Mr. Zero pretty much because in his time he was a shutout machine) and a bunch of others because you know what? just because nobody actually saw these guys play doesn't mean they weren't for real and part of NHL history.

Apologies to Devils fans but NHL history doesn't start with their ****ing franchise and raw numbers for career wins is not a good enough argument that Brodeur was the best goaltender ever. There was a lot that happened before they came into the league and a lot more to happen.
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It’s not that nobody saw them play just the people that did might not be alive or are old. I think a lot of people from back then would say no way in hell is marty anywhere close to someone like a Dryden. (And I would agree) IMO a lot of goalies from before my time are some of the best ever. Going out there in the equipment they used makes it even more impressive.
 
Pidto Files said:
Hockey's Tom Brady. Just the French Canadian version. Obviously a HOF player. Not the best ever. Best goalie ever didn't even play in the NHL. Tretiak.
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One of the biggest what ifs in the history of hockey. Wish I had been able to see Tretiak in the NHL. He should have defected after getting pulled in 80.
 
Embryo said:
I know this isn't the Devils forum, I am a Rangers fan and always post here, and considering Martin Brodeur is one of our all time greatest rivals and that if I post it on the Devils forums I'll get banned for trolling, I consider it appropriate that this be posted here. What are your thoughts? The argument is that Broduer played in an era when there were the least amount of shots on goal in NHL history basically, was on a completely defensive minded "trap" team, and that his stats are incredibly inflated.


The video is really good, idk if you guys know about this dude, but he makes great videos.

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I like THG and completely agree with your and his opinion of Brodeur, but THG is definitely overrated in my opinion. It’s not really him. It’s the THG fanboys that treat his opinions like gospel. But I guess every popular YouTuber has their crazy fan base.
 
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First Ballot HOF for sure, but overrated in my mind. I certainly don’t think he’s top 5. Great goalie in a perfect situation.

Hasek is the best that I’ve seen. It used to be awful when the Rangers went up to Buffalo, outshoot the Sabres 50-18 and still lose the game. Some games you just weren’t ever going to score.
 
I'm almost 40. I've watched Brodeur's whole career. Also watched other greats of the era like Hasek and Roy. Sure Brodeur's stats are inflated by great, great Devils teams but he absolutely was a major corner stone of those teams. IMO he is a top 3 goalie of all-time. I think Hasek is the GOAT, he flat out stole games on a nightly basis for Buffalo and got them to the finals. His MVP seasons were much deserved during the dead puck era. But Brodeur probably had the best career. I hate defending the guy because I hate him like we all do but whenever the overrated discussion comes up with him I find myself defending him.

Also I'm a big fan of Shannon The Hockey Guy, I watch a lot of videos. But he's definitely more of a Roy fan.
 
Brodeur was able to help his defensemen and create breakouts whenever he handled the puck (before they put in the trapazoid).

I'd still take a number of guys above him but I was really jealous of that skill. I used to pray that Richter wouldn't leave the net to play the puck.
 
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Seems like NYR confuse Richter and Brodeur when discussing performance and ability. The former is probably among the most overrated goalies in NHL history; the latter is amongst the greats. Not the greatest but definitely top 5-10 for my money.
 
klingsor said:
Brodeur was able to help his defensemen and create breakouts whenever he handled the puck (before they put in the trapazoid).

I'd still take a number of guys above him but I was really jealous of that skill. I used to pray that Richter wouldn't leave the net to play the puck.
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Brodeur was the impetus for the trapezoid. When they make a rule to counteract your effectiveness then you know you are the best at it. The trap and Marty fishing in the corners for dump ins so he could dump them out was boring hockey. That said it was winning hockey for them. Marty was the perfect goalie for that system. He fit the puzzle but Hasek was a puzzle all unto himself.

I have Hasek ahead of Marty but Marty is absolutely in the conversation for best ever.
 
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klingsor said:
Brodeur was able to help his defensemen and create breakouts whenever he handled the puck (before they put in the trapazoid).

I'd still take a number of guys above him but I was really jealous of that skill. I used to pray that Richter wouldn't leave the net to play the puck.
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Yep. Just like Hank.
 
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Baby Duck Homme said:
Brodeur was the impetus for the trapezoid. When they make a rule to counteract your effectiveness then you know you are the best at it. The trap and Marty fishing in the corners for dump ins so he could dump them out was boring hockey. That said it was winning hockey for them. Marty was the perfect goalie for that system. He fit the puzzle but Hasek was a puzzle all unto himself.

I have Hasek ahead of Marty but Marty is absolutely in the conversation for best ever.
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And even after the trapezoid he was super effective at breakouts.

I grew up in the era of "boring hockey" and Brodeur made it less boring
 
Pidto Files said:
Yep. Just like Hank.
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Definitely agree, but Richter was actually way worse at handling the puck than Hank ever was. Richter would stumble/shuffle behind the net like he was still wearing his skate guards, use the boards behind the net as a brace to brake himself as he slammed into them, and finally would then struggle to find the puck amongst that chaos. Whatever happened next was anyone's guess. (dat sexy split glove saves though mmmMMMMMmmmmm)

Hank's issue is that he doesn't always have a plan, the vision, or awareness to pass it to the right guy. He's got the skating and physical stickhandling/passing ability though which Richter never had.
 
Crease said:
He's easily in the top five goaltenders all time, but that doesn't mean I don't hate his guts or won't argue to Devils fans that Richter was better.
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His 691 wins will never be touched. Add his 3 Stanley Cups and 2 Olympic gold medals,... and it's hard to argue he wasn't the best of all time.
 
eco's bones said:
Apologies to Devils fans but NHL history doesn't start with their ****ing franchise and raw numbers for career wins is not a good enough argument that Brodeur was the best goaltender ever. There was a lot that happened before they came into the league and a lot more to happen.
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While Dryden is definitely one of the best ever, in the amount of time he played. And I was there when he came up in 1970. You can't discount Marty played 3 times as many games as Dryden with the same 2.24 GAA. 3 times as many games.
 
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Younger fans may not remember but this guy was the real deal - super smart and sneaky goalie with a great glove and best poke check ever in the game.
 
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