The really annoying thing about Veleno is that you see it sometimes. He throws the body around one game, has a good fight against Perry etc etc.... while being able to skate and kill a penalty. Hes really versatile. If he molded himself into a harder to play against layer (that he shows flashes of), he could play in the league for a long time.I liked him a lot as a prospect but it just hasn’t come together for him. He's kind of fallen into Emmerton territory… not good enough for the top 6, and not industrious enough for the bottom 6.
Yeah he actually is a really good athlete, it seems. You would think he would have the versatility to play in the bottom 6. I think it might be hard for him to embrace that role, maybe. I also think his IQ is maybe not the best.The really annoying thing about Veleno is that you see it sometimes. He throws the body around one game, has a good fight against Perry etc etc.... while being able to skate and kill a penalty. Hes really versatile. If he molded himself into a harder to play against layer (that he shows flashes of), he could play in the league for a long time.
Instead hes starting to look like hes just another body
Bingo. At his worst he looks absolutely paralyzed at times. His better hockey is useful. I just wish we saw more of it.Yeah he actually is a really good athlete, it seems. You would think he would have the versatility to play in the bottom 6. I think it might be hard for him to embrace that role, maybe. I also think his IQ is maybe not the best.
I just said it in the gdt but ill repost it here. Soderbloms hands, feet and size combo allows for him to go on rushes and create offence out of nothing here and there. That rush tonight where he set up Rasmussen and almost batted the puck in out of the air was more offence than Veleno, Rasmussen or Motte have shown in their careers. He kinda reminds me of Athanasiou in that way where every now and then he could just make a highlight happen and create offence. Combine that with his ability to get his stick in lanes, physical game and puck protection... he might become a pretty useful player
Been saying for the longest time hed be someone who would player better in the nhl with better talent around himTbh he should have been on the Wings for years. Not like we have this star studded team he needs to beat out to make the roster.
Tbh he should have been on the Wings for years. Not like we have this star studded team he needs to beat out to make the roster.
I dont think anyone who watched him play in GR last season would say Soderblom should have been up with Detroit earlier. Him being down there with Watson tellingh im to get meaner seemed to break something out in him that he definitely hasnt had before this year.Been saying for the longest time hed be someone who would player better in the nhl with better talent around him
He should have been up sooner,berggren last season... we like to "overripe" guys into oblivion here. I expect danielson to make it but since he has like 4 goals in the ahl I wouldn't be shocked to see him back there next season
Yzerman needs to find a way to get rid of guys like compher,tarasenko,veleno etc.. to make room for soderblom to be on the top 9,mazur, danielson etc...
The really annoying thing about Veleno is that you see it sometimes. He throws the body around one game, has a good fight against Perry etc etc.... while being able to skate and kill a penalty. Hes really versatile. If he molded himself into a harder to play against layer (that he shows flashes of), he could play in the league for a long time.
Instead hes starting to look like hes just another body
Söderblom needed time. He was called up exactly when everything starting clicking at the AHL level. Also, GR success is important. With Mazur back bringing Elmer up didn’t hurt that team so much.Been saying for the longest time hed be someone who would player better in the nhl with better talent around him
He should have been up sooner,berggren last season... we like to "overripe" guys into oblivion here. I expect danielson to make it but since he has like 4 goals in the ahl I wouldn't be shocked to see him back there next season
Yzerman needs to find a way to get rid of guys like compher,tarasenko,veleno etc.. to make room for soderblom to be on the top 9,mazur, danielson etc...
Agreed. I look forward to when more kids are clicking and Detroit can axe a few veteran doorstops. This roster is a borderline dichotomy (that thankfully is headed in the right direction).Söderblom needed time. He was called up exactly when everything starting clicking at the AHL level. Also, GR success is important. With Mazur back bringing Elmer up didn’t hurt that team so much.
Honestly it's a little disturbing how it only took two games for me to rate Soderblom higher than Ras and Veleno. Those guys frustrate me to no end. They clearly could be good but just choose to suck insteadThis and also how I feel about Rasmussen. With less moments of showing it than Veleno.
Honestly it's a little disturbing how it only took two games for me to rate Soderblom higher than Ras and Veleno. Those guys frustrate me to no end. They clearly could be good but just choose to suck instead
Yep, Elmer was down to work on a few things, which he was slowly getting it done as a whole package until recently. I do think the broken foot slowed him down a little, but that now seems past him. (Them big guys can take a while to get back on track)Soderblom was not on the Wings sooner because he did not deserve to be on the Wings sooner. Until this year Soderblom has played a pretty disengaged brand of hockey. The Soderblom you are seeing today is playing much different than the Soderblom of last year to the point where I was ready to give up on him as an NHL prospect if he didn't turn things around, and he started to turn things around only recently with some crediting Austin Watson for helping him out. His play really started to turn around maybe 2 months ago now? If new Elmer keeps showing up, hes an NHL player. If he reverts to old Elmer, hes outta here.
Maybe I was delusional but I thought he looked good his first 20 game stretch in the nhl and been saying since last year I thought he'd be better in the nhl with better talent surrounding him. With his size and what he showed i wasnt ready to let go of what he could be for usI dont think anyone who watched him play in GR last season would say Soderblom should have been up with Detroit earlier. Him being down there with Watson tellingh im to get meaner seemed to break something out in him that he definitely hasnt had before this year.
This time last year I was guessing he would end up back in Sweden
I also really liked what I saw when he was first called up a couple of seasons ago. He had a useful toolset but was still pretty raw. I really thought we would have seen him on the roster before now but I guess he lost his way a bit, which is worrisome. I don't know how I feel about someone following the Mantha trajectory. Anyway, I'm glad he's putting it together and I hope he stays hungry.Maybe I was delusional but I thought he looked good his first 20 game stretch in the nhl and been saying since last year I thought he'd be better in the nhl with better talent surrounding him. With his size and what he showed i wasnt ready to let go of what he could be for us
Like you I thought the way it was going he was sadly going to the shl soon or at least to another team. Glad he added a mean streak and it's all worked out in the end. Dont expect him to go back down
I'd now like to see us retain watson as well and make him an extra forward next season and continue to mentor elmer to keep his momentum going
It seems to have all worked out in the end so long as he keeps being more physical with players. I think he belongs at least on the 3rd line and 2nd ppl shifts should head his wayI also really liked what I saw when he was first called up a couple of seasons ago. He had a useful toolset but was still pretty raw. I really thought we would have seen him on the roster before now but I guess he lost his way a bit, which is worrisome. I don't know how I feel about someone following the Mantha trajectory. Anyway, I'm glad he's putting it together and I hope he stays hungry.