So, *why* is Alex Mogilny not in the HHOF?

[MadLuke]

He also called Bob Gainey the best player in the world. So him saying that means less than nothing.

I feel that could how people chose to translate from Russian ?, he said most complete player in the world according to some, which do not sound that unreasonable or hot as a take.
Little wonder that the legendary Soviet Union coach Viktor Tikhonov praised Gainey during the 1981 Canada Cup, calling him "technically the most complete player in the world."

Depends on one define complete... (some could have said Potvin, Trottier, many soviet or others candidate, but it is not best of the world level of pushing it)

 

[VistamarCroissants]

He also called Bob Gainey the best player in the world. So him saying that means less than nothing.

He coached them. He knows better.

Actually, I don't know whether Tikhonov ever said that Gainey is the best. Find me a quote, preferably from a Soviet newspaper.

And maybe Gainey would have become the best player if he was coached by Tikhonov. Who knows?

 

[filinski77]

Mogilny had 1 great season where he was 1st in goals and 7th in points.

Top-10 point finishes = 7/9
Top-10 goal finishes = 1/3/6
Top-10 Hart finishes = none

His accumulated goal/point totals aren't all that impressive since he played his prime in the high-scoring 90's.

If he goes in the hall based on some compiling stats, and those top-end seasons. Then the following players will also have to be in the hall (or one day make the hall) -> Benn, Tavares, Pavelski, Getzlaf, Marchand, Hall, Wheeler, Gaudreau, Pastrnak, Panarin, Spezza, Parise, Lecavalier, Kessel, Backstrom, Scheifele, Perry, Staal, Richards, Kovalchuk, Savard.

A lot of these guys have similar point/goal finishes, similar career totals (when considering they didn't play in the 90's), and a lot actually have a Hart finish.

Some will make the Hall, but this list of comparables does not deserve a thread of "why isn't he in the hall". It's because his comparables is largely hall of very good.

 

[WarriorofTime]

His accumulated goal/point totals aren't all that impressive since he played his prime in the high-scoring 90's.

Adjusted points and actual points are pretty similar actually.

I would not call Mogilny your classic "compiler" as he did not play enough games to really "compile" in the way people use it, just had a lot of pretty consistently good seasons with only a couple seasons that went really off.

 

[MadLuke]

His accumulated goal/point totals aren't all that impressive since he played his prime in the high-scoring 90's.

If we call the high scoring 90s everything before 96-97 and Mogilny prime everything before the lock-out/before going over 35 (he was a ppg his last 2 years in Toronto in 03-04 hockey that not bad at all)

460 of his 956 in his prime games were in the high scoring 90s, 48% of them, half in high scoring, half in low scoring.

It probably balances out career wise close to the average nhler experience, the adjusted and actual being really close said above would not surprise me.

 

[The Panther]

I don't think it's an insult to Mogilny to compare him to Kovalev. I'd say their careers impacts and stats, etc., are pretty similar.

To round-down the two big early-90s' seasons of Mogilny a bit, the ever-popular "Adjusted stats" metric on Hockey-Ref shows each player peaking at 103 "points", and each having four 85+ point seasons. After those biggest four seasons, Mogilny has a slight edge, but they each end up with nine 60+ "point" seasons in total.

One thing Kovalev did that Mogilby didn't is to be a big contributor to a Cup winner ('94 Rangers).