So... Nashville is 1st in the NHL...

[10coach*]

Nashville and Minnesota, two teams headed in opposite directions and it's showing right now. Down by two goals, and now two bad fight losses for Minny.

lol they gave Cooke a fighting ?

 

[Tacos]

I have very little to add to this thread other than to say that threads that start with "so..." are quite annoying

Go Preds?!?!?!?!

 

[Bure All Day]

I have very little to add to this thread other than to say that threads that start with "so..." are quite annoying

Go Preds?!?!?!?!

And people who have nothing to comment other than to criticize the title of the thread are annoying.

 

[Magnus the Duck]

There is plenty to criticized Trotz for (or any coach that's been around forever), but Forsberg isn't a valid one, IMO. He had a 19-year old FF9 who was very clearly physically overmatched against NHL-caliber talent.

He didn't magically go from "physically overmatched against NHL-caliber talent" to great NHL player over a few months as you describe. Some criticism against Trotz for this is correct, although it is pretty moot now anyway.

 

[wadesworld]

Pekka Rinne. Do I have to say more? Of course the whole team has played really well ala Forsberg, but the main key is Rinne. He is just something else...

Sure, but very, very few teams sustain excellent play by scoring lots of goals and having crappy goaltending. Show me a top-level team and I'll show you a great goalie, whether it's one that's consistently great, or one that's just having a career year.

 

[wadesworld]

lol they gave Cooke a fighting ?

Cooke speared Weber, and Weber laid an epic beatdown on him. Then Prosser decide he'd pick on Mike Fisher, and Fisher absolutely demolished him - with Prosser never getting a punch in.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

He didn't magically go from "physically overmatched against NHL-caliber talent" to great NHL player over a few months as you describe. Some criticism against Trotz for this is correct, although it is pretty moot now anyway.

It's not like this was 2-3 months, we're talking about a year, which is a significant amount of time when you're talking about the growth and strength development of a 19/20-year old. He just didn't look physically ready for the NHL game at the beginning of last season, spent a year working on his game in the AHL, and came into this season a stronger and physically more mature player. Surely that's not all that outlandish?

And clearly it didn't just "magically" happen. The kid obviously put in an immense amount of work on his game and body over the past year, which is evident from his performance on the ice.

 

[bigduga]

...they're legit, and should be fun to watch.

And i say *should* not because they're not generally likeable or entertaining, but because i've been a Blues fan for thirty years, and as a result i don't get any joy watching anyone else's team have any success anymore.

 

[Tkachuk4MVP]

lol they gave Cooke a fighting ?

Reputation call, I didn't see him get a single punch in.

 

[Keeptdos]

Cooke speared Weber, and Weber laid an epic beatdown on him. Then Prosser decide he'd pick on Mike Fisher, and Fisher absolutely demolished him - with Prosser never getting a punch in.

Cooke high sticked (crosscheck) Weber and Weber went for the fight, which Cooke never took part in.

Should have been:
2min Cooke for highsticking
5min Weber for fighting

Fisher actualy picked on Prosser after his defensive game on blue line which Fisher didn't like and Fisher killed him.

 

[Gnashville]

There is plenty to criticized Trotz for (or any coach that's been around forever), but Forsberg isn't a valid one, IMO. He had a 19-year old FF9 who was very clearly physically overmatched against NHL-caliber talent. Forsberg's size and physicality coming into camp this season were night and day from last year. It wouldn't have mattered who the coach was, or how he was used, he simply would not have been as effective a player last season, and who knows how that may have altered the player he has been this season.

Didn't he say he was unimpressed with Forsberg, and was highly critical of him most of the time. There is no way he would allow him to cherry pick and attempt those pick pocket moves.

 

[Gnashville]

Cooke high sticked (crosscheck) Weber and Weber went for the fight, which Cooke never took part in.

Should have been:
2min Cooke for highsticking
5min Weber for fighting

Fisher actualy picked on Prosser after his defensive game on blue line which Fisher didn't like and Fisher killed him.

You left out that Cooke speared Weber before the cross check.

 

[Keeptdos]

I'm talking how the penalties went/should have. Sure you could have given him 2min for spearing but you could as well give Weber 2min for instigator.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Didn't he say he was unimpressed with Forsberg, and was highly critical of him most of the time. There is no way he would allow him to cherry pick and attempt those pick pocket moves.

I also remember him being highly complimentary of Forsberg's talent level during training camp. I'm not certain on your second part, as the pick pocketing requires defensive tenacity, which Trotz wouldn't frown upon. Relying on that instead of defense? Well, I doubt Lavy would be completely enamoured of that either.

 

[Flgatorguy87]

Cooke clearly was looking to pick at Weber and he underestimated his temper which is short and explosive.

 

[Tkachuk4MVP]

You left out that Cooke speared Weber before the cross check.

I completely missed that, only saw the crosscheck to the face.

 

[Tacos]

And people who have nothing to comment other than to criticize the title of the thread are annoying.

Complainception

 

[Top 6 Spaling]

The Predators have now scored 3 or more goals in 12 straight games. Couple that with Rinne and we are dangerous.

Forsberg is slowing down now (pointless in 3 straight) and Wilson is stepping up to pick up the slack.

 

[AintLifeGrand]

The Predators have now scored 3 or more goals in 12 straight games. Couple that with Rinne and we are dangerous.

Forsberg is slowing down now (pointless in 3 straight) and Wilson is stepping up to pick up the slack.

yea but he should have had a goal against Dallas ...so I'm not worried

 

[Gnashville]

I also remember him being highly complimentary of Forsberg's talent level during training camp. I'm not certain on your second part, as the pick pocketing requires defensive tenacity, which Trotz wouldn't frown upon. Relying on that instead of defense? Well, I doubt Lavy would be completely enamoured of that either.

I have noticed he's starting to float out there and is pressing a lot more with Neal injured. The Predators have scored 3 or more goals in 12 straight games and Neal has been injured and Forsberg has cooled off, yet the scoring has increased.

 

[GeauxPreds]

Can we just take a moment to appreciate how far Wilson has come this year? Last season we were willing to trade him for a bag of peanuts and it was basically coming down to this season to make the call on bust or not. He's looking like the player he was drafted to be finally and it's a bigger part of the preds current success than people want to admit. Especially in the past few games with neal out.

 

[preds1]

Cooke clearly was looking to pick at Weber and he underestimated his temper which is short and explosive.

A cross check to the mush will to that.
Probably the last time he does it too.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

I have noticed he's starting to float out there and is pressing a lot more with Neal injured. The Predators have scored 3 or more goals in 12 straight games and Neal has been injured and Forsberg has cooled off, yet the scoring has increased.

Yeah, he's been trying to do perhaps a bit too much on his own of late. It's only natural that teams are going to approach playing him differently, though, which is something he's just going to have to adjust to. I think that's why we've seen the secondary scoring spark a bit, as well.

 

[Gnashville]

I completely missed that, only saw the crosscheck to the face.

Honestly I was listening on the radio when it happened but the Predators radio color man went off about it.
It occurred before Weber went after Cooke and the refs missed it even some Wild fans says it happened.

 

[777]

He didn't magically go from "physically overmatched against NHL-caliber talent" to great NHL player over a few months as you describe. Some criticism against Trotz for this is correct, although it is pretty moot now anyway.

Time in the AHL for a teenager especially adapting from Euro hockey can be very beneficial